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travis(at)tnkolbaircraft.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: MKIIIx

Morning Gang:

  

 Got an early start flying this  morning.

  

 Made my first full flap landing and a dozen  more.  The X is a floater and nice soft gentle landings.  Of course, I  didn't stall it until it was almost on the turf.

  

 It flies well with full flaps which are 45  deg.  Half flaps is 20 deg.  Still stalling at 30 mph IAS at 3,000  feet ASL.

  

 Still waiting for the droop tips.   Supposed to be here tomorrow.  

  

 Beautiful day in sunny, cool Kentucky.

  

 john h

 mkIII

 Labhart Field, KY

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travis(at)tnkolbaircraft.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: MKIIIx

Hi Gang:

  

 Weather continues to be a bit cruddy.   However, was able to get a short test flight in this afternoon with the new  droop tips.

  

 Initial results are:

  

 Stall:

  

 Clean - 36 mph

  

 20 deg - 30 mph

  

 45 - 26 mph (that is not a typo)

  

 All speeds are IAS.  It was a short flight  because it was flown in the rain.  A problem with the long, flat, low angle  X windshield is visibility in precipitation.  Tomorrow morning the weather  is supposed to be partly cloudy, wind 5-10 mph.  I should be able to get  better numbers in the morning.

  

 Ailerons feel good.  I am going to test it  with the cables moved in another half inch.  Maybe with the droop tips the  ailerons will have increased authority.  Without them, I did not feel I had  enough slow speed authority.  This airplane will fly slow.

  

 Take care,

  

 john h

 mkIII

 Labhart Field, KY

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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

as Sgt Shultz said, "verrry interesting"

-now for the VGs.  heh heh

BB

do not archive



On 28, Mar 2008, at 4:10 PM, Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft) wrote:

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		  Hi Gang:

 

Weather continues to be a bit cruddy.  However, was able to get a short test flight in this afternoon with the new droop tips.

 

Initial results are:

 

Stall:

 

Clean - 36 mph

 

20 deg - 30 mph

 

45 - 26 mph (that is not a typo)

 

All speeds are IAS.  It was a short flight because it was flown in the rain.  A problem with the long, flat, low angle X windshield is visibility in precipitation.  Tomorrow morning the weather is supposed to be partly cloudy, wind 5-10 mph.  I should be able to get better numbers in the morning.

 

Ailerons feel good.  I am going to test it with the cables moved in another half inch.  Maybe with the droop tips the ailerons will have increased authority.  Without them, I did not feel I had enough slow speed authority.  This airplane will fly slow.

 

Take care,

 

john h

mkIII

Labhart Field, KY

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travis(at)tnkolbaircraft.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

Bob B:

  

 I knew that was coming!  

  

 You know what my standard answer is for my  mkIII.  Well........going to be about the same for the new MKIIIx, "I  really do not have a requirement for VGs."

  

 Again, this was a very short flight.  I was  restricted with ceiling and visibility.  Hopefully, in the morning we can  get some good test weather to get a better feel for the new airplane.  I am  glad I got to get as much time on it as I did without the droop tips.   Gives me a better feel for what the droop tips are doing.  Don't forget  though, this airplane has 13 feet of straight wing plus the tips.  It was a  slow flying airplane before addition of the tips.

  

 john h

 mkIII

 Labhart Field, KY

 [quote]    Sgt Shultz said, "verrry  interesting"

   

   -now for the VGs.  heh heh

   BB

    

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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

John Than x update. Just curious -- u using  Rain-X?



On Mar 28, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft) wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  Hi Gang:

 

Weather continues to be a bit cruddy.  However, was able to get a short test flight in this afternoon with the new droop tips.

 

Initial results are:

 

Stall:

 

Clean - 36 mph

 

20 deg - 30 mph

 

45 - 26 mph (that is not a typo)

 

All speeds are IAS.  It was a short flight because it was flown in the rain.  A problem with the long, flat, low angle X windshield is visibility in precipitation.  Tomorrow morning the weather is supposed to be partly cloudy, wind 5-10 mph.  I should be able to get better numbers in the morning.

 

Ailerons feel good.  I am going to test it with the cables moved in another half inch.  Maybe with the droop tips the ailerons will have increased authority.  Without them, I did not feel I had enough slow speed authority.  This airplane will fly slow.

 

Take care,

 

john h

mkIII

Labhart Field, KY

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herbgh(at)nctc.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

I keep my lexan cleaned with pledge furniture polish... Wax... Takes the bugs off too.. Herb 



 

 At 05:33 PM 3/28/2008, you wrote:

 [quote]John 

 Than x update. Just curious -- u using  Rain-X?



 

 On Mar 28, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft) wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Hi Gang:

  

 Weather continues to be a bit cruddy.  However, was able to get a short test flight in this afternoon with the new droop tips.

  

 Initial results are:

  

 Stall:

  

 Clean - 36 mph

  

 20 deg - 30 mph

  

 45 - 26 mph (that is not a typo)

  

 All speeds are IAS.  It was a short flight because it was flown in the rain.  A problem with the long, flat, low angle X windshield is visibility in precipitation.  Tomorrow morning the weather is supposed to be partly cloudy, wind 5-10 mph.  I should be able to get better numbers in the morning.

  

 Ailerons feel good.  I am going to test it with the cables moved in another half inch.  Maybe with the droop tips the ailerons will have increased authority.  Without them, I did not feel I had enough slow speed authority.  This airplane will fly slow.

  

 Take care,

  

 john h

 mkIII

 Labhart Field, KY

 

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travis(at)tnkolbaircraft.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

Nope.

  

 Rain X and Lexan are not compatible, as I under  it.  I have not tried it, but others have with poor success.

  

 I use plexus on my aircraft.

  

 This X has plexus on it.

  

 john h

 mkIII

 Labhart Field, KY

  

  

 [quote]    From: Russ Kinne (russ(at)rkiphoto.com) 

    

    Than x update. Just curious -- u    using  Rain-X?

    

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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

Thanx for the info! Does Plexus keep the rain drops running like RainX does?

On Mar 28, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft) wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  Nope.

 

Rain X and Lexan are not compatible, as I under it.  I have not tried it, but others have with poor success.

 

I use plexus on my aircraft.

 

This X has plexus on it.

 

john h

mkIII

Labhart Field, KY

 

 

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 Than x update. Just curious -- u using  Rain-X?

 

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travis(at)tnkolbaircraft.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

I don't know.  Never used RainX.

 jhauck

  

  

  From: Russ Kinne (russ(at)rkiphoto.com) 

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Thanx for the info! Does Plexus keep the rain drops running    like RainX does?    

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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: MKIIIx

Those are AMAZING number John,  I sure wish I had that wing on my plane !  Kolb has made a good airplane quite a bit better, good for them on improving the design.   There is not much else out there with anywhere near that kind of slow flight performance, that will also go fast.  I'm sure that plane will impress a lot of people and generate sales for Kolb.

RainX is an incredible product for you car window...  Even in the heaviest thunderstorms I dont need wipers, and in a cold climate, I wipe frost off the window with a rag, no need for a scraper.  The secret is to put RainX on like Wax, rub it in real good on a dry cool window.  If you just smear it on, you will get poor results.



I would not try RainX on Lexan, there is alcohol in it that could attack the Lexan.  It is not for plastics.  I use car wax on my Kolb Lexan, I first polish it with a plastic polisher, then put wax on it.  The wax makes quite a bit of difference in its optical quality.



Mike

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Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

captainron1(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: MKIIIx

Strongly recommend against using any furniture wax (Pledge and the rest) in flight, if rain is possible. Found out about it the hard way up in Alaska (back in 1988 first time up there), it will mix with the water and make the windshield fairly opaque. Rain-X works good for flight in rain, highly recommended.



Ron Txaz



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I keep my lexan cleaned with pledge furniture polish... Wax... Takes 

the bugs off too.. Herb

At 05:33 PM 3/28/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  John

Than x update. Just curious -- u using  Rain-X?

On Mar 28, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft) wrote:

>Hi Gang:

>

>Weather continues to be a bit cruddy.  However, was able to get a 

>short test flight in this afternoon with the new droop tips.

>

>Initial results are:

>

>Stall:

>

>Clean - 36 mph

>

>20 deg - 30 mph

>

>45 - 26 mph (that is not a typo)

>

>All speeds are IAS.  It was a short flight because it was flown in 

>the rain.  A problem with the long, flat, low angle X windshield is 

>visibility in precipitation.  Tomorrow morning the weather is 

>supposed to be partly cloudy, wind 5-10 mph.  I should be able to 

>get better numbers in the morning.

>

>Ailerons feel good.  I am going to test it with the cables moved in 

>another half inch.  Maybe with the droop tips the ailerons will 

>have increased authority.  Without them, I did not feel I had 

>enough slow speed authority.  This airplane will fly slow.

>

>Take care,

>

>john h

>mkIII

>Labhart Field, KY

>

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