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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: Oshkosh Yak List |
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AirVenture Attendees:
I have heard some chatter from Oshkosh about the FAA conducting ramp checks on Experimentals during Oshkosh. While they have restrained themselves from doing this during the event in the past , times have changed. Just look how they have been "protecting" the flying public lately by measuring the cable clamp and bundle stitches on airliners.
Your paperwork should be ready pass inspection: aircraft/pilot/parachute.
Craig Payne
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: Oshkosh Yak List |
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Airventure Attendees -
For anyone wanting a CDROM copy of "Aging Aircraft", the FAAs focus on electrical wiring and potential onboard fires from same, I will bring copies to OSH. Just contact me offline.
The FAA has been clear on the hard date to comply with Conformity Inspections. Adel clamps were changed, wiring practices required removal and replacement of some wire runs and some electrical controlled devices were removed and then replaced with "improved" devices. Our entire fleet was done within the time alloted. The consequence by delaying compliance was a financial one by each carrier. Cannot comment on American's decision but the behind the scenes efforts to outsource as much maintenance to non company mechanics is understandable in an effort to protect bonuses during such times of high fuel costs.
I can't help those of you who believe that missing Navy missile brought down TWA #800. The FBI and FAA found it would be easier to blame it on "Aging Wiring". A lot of the ideas in the CDROM will some day trickle down to Experimental Built aircraft. The newer certificated, production units are already meeting the newest standards. I am just waiting for the EAA to join the fray.
Allan McArter (FAA administrator) told me in 1987 that the two things the FAA tries to protect is their retirement pension and the protective rights of unsuspecting citizens on the ground. Those who chose to fly have already made a decision on their safety. His was an interesting perspective since Congress got into the focus of what is being done in aviation.
John Cox
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Craig Payne
Sent: Mon 4/21/2008 4:13 AM
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Subject: Oshkosh Yak List
AirVenture Attendees:
I have heard some chatter from Oshkosh about the FAA conducting ramp checks on Experimentals during Oshkosh. While they have restrained themselves from doing this during the event in the past , times have changed. Just look how they have been "protecting" the flying public lately by measuring the cable clamp and bundle stitches on airliners.
Your paperwork should be ready pass inspection: aircraft/pilot/parachute.
Craig Payne
cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Oshkosh Yak List |
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FAA agent says - "I'm not happy, until you're not happy."Besides the maint issues, it took me 4 months to transfer the paprework (OL's, airworthiness etc) when I bought the 55,
Herb
On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:07 PM, John Cox wrote: | Quote: | Airventure Attendees -
For anyone wanting a CDROM copy of "Aging Aircraft", the FAAs focus on electrical wiring and potential onboard fires from same, I will bring copies to OSH. Just contact me offline.
The FAA has been clear on the hard date to comply with Conformity Inspections. Adel clamps were changed, wiring practices required removal and replacement of some wire runs and some electrical controlled devices were removed and then replaced with "improved" devices. Our entire fleet was done within the time alloted. The consequence by delaying compliance was a financial one by each carrier. Cannot comment on American's decision but the behind the scenes efforts to outsource as much maintenance to non company mechanics is understandable in an effort to protect bonuses during such times of high fuel costs.
I can't help those of you who believe that missing Navy missile brought down TWA #800. The FBI and FAA found it would be easier to blame it on "Aging Wiring". A lot of the ideas in the CDROM will some day trickle down to Experimental Built aircraft. The newer certificated, production units are already meeting the newest standards. I am just waiting for the EAA to join the fray.
Allan McArter (FAA administrator) told me in 1987 that the two things the FAA tries to protect is their retirement pension and the protective rights of unsuspecting citizens on the ground. Those who chose to fly have already made a decision on their safety. His was an interesting perspective since Congress got into the focus of what is being done in aviation.
John Cox
airline mechanic
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) on behalf of Craig Payne
Sent: Mon 4/21/2008 4:13 AM
To: yak-list
Subject: Oshkosh Yak List
AirVenture Attendees:
I have heard some chatter from Oshkosh about the FAA conducting ramp checks on Experimentals during Oshkosh. While they have restrained themselves from doing this during the event in the past , times have changed. Just look how they have been "protecting" the flying public lately by measuring the cable clamp and bundle stitches on airliners.
Your paperwork should be ready pass inspection: aircraft/pilot/parachute.
Craig Payne
cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: Oshkosh Yak List |
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I wonder......
How many people on this list know anything about Kapton wiring?
Is anyone aware of the fact that we've pulled it out of every military
aircraft that used it? At significant expense?
Also aware that we left it in the airliners?
Anyone here besides me that has direct experience with it blowing up
right in their faces?
Not to take anything away from the FAA's reputation or intent... Which I
have experienced as well... But if you are not aware of the issues with
Kapton wiring, it might be worth your time to educate yourself. You also
might want to make damn sure you never use it to rewire your own
aircraft.
Mark Bitterlich
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