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kenwhyde(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50) STC,d for used on Comm

Thanks Moe,

 

 Greatly appreciate your offer, I found a set of  new disc.

 

 Ken

 

 

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gmosh(at)charter.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50) STC,d for used on Comm

I bought a set of "Cleveland's" from Harry Merrit back in 2000 for my  '54 560.  At a cost of $1500.00 bucks I thought it a great deal at the  time.  Of course I assumed I'd be getting the twin caliper style  I had seen on other Commanders over the years.  What I received were  of Cleveland manufacture but they turned out to be a set of 4 piston -  single caliper brakes, and included the requisite rotors and wheels - basically  a modern version of the Goodyear's the 560 was originally fitted with.  I  was assured these were proper for Commanders.  The originally fitted  Goodyear brakes couldn't stop a wheel barrow on a good day.

  

 After a bit of jury rigging I was able to fit this style to the mains  making sure there was clearance to the wheel well structure.  Although  this set up was superior to the Goodyear's and provided performance I  have always held reservations on this installation.

  

 After some further investigation some time later and consultation with the  Cleveland folks (upon finding a sticker on one of the wheels when  refurbishing the mains) - these "Cleveland's" were intended for  fitting to Mitsubishi MU-2's.

  

 So now I'm curious is the 199-88 the twin caliper type or perhaps more  along the lines of what I might have.      

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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50) STC,d for used on Comm

Ken,

  

 Glad to hear that you found the set of discs.   You are, of course, very welcome.

  

 Regards,

 Moe

 N680RR

 680Fp

  

  

  



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 Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:31 PM

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 Subject: Re: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50)  STC,d for used on Commanders

 



Thanks Moe,



Greatly appreciate your offer, I found a  set of  new disc.



Ken

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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50) STC,d for used on Comm

Gary,

  

 The single caliper set was on my 680Fp when I  purchased it, and according to the logs had been on it a long time.  My  plane has a max gross weight of 8,000 lbs., and is close to gross most of the  time.  I have been very happy with the brake system and it stops very  well.

  

 Moe

  

  



  From: Gary Moshluk (gmosh(at)charter.net) 

 Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:41 PM

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 Subject: Re: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50)  STC,d for used on Commanders

 



 I bought a set of "Cleveland's" from Harry Merrit back in 2000 for my  '54 560.  At a cost of $1500.00 bucks I thought it a great deal at the  time.  Of course I assumed I'd be getting the twin caliper style  I had seen on other Commanders over the years.  What I received were  of Cleveland manufacture but they turned out to be a set of 4 piston -  single caliper brakes, and included the requisite rotors and wheels - basically  a modern version of the Goodyear's the 560 was originally fitted with.  I  was assured these were proper for Commanders.  The originally fitted  Goodyear brakes couldn't stop a wheel barrow on a good day.

  

 After a bit of jury rigging I was able to fit this style to the mains  making sure there was clearance to the wheel well structure.  Although  this set up was superior to the Goodyear's and provided performance I  have always held reservations on this installation.

  

 After some further investigation some time later and consultation with the  Cleveland folks (upon finding a sticker on one of the wheels when  refurbishing the mains) - these "Cleveland's" were intended for  fitting to Mitsubishi MU-2's.

  

 So now I'm curious is the 199-88 the twin caliper type or perhaps more  along the lines of what I might have.      

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50) STC,d for used on Comm

Harry Merrit = good friend of ex-con "everyone here should know whom that is" = bad egg via personal experience.  Want more info ask Harry and his well disatisfied costumers. or his good friend. AKA ex-con.

  

 sorry Harry, what comes around goes around...

  

 Brent

  

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From: "Gary Moshluk" <gmosh(at)charter.net> 

    I bought a set of "Cleveland's" from Harry Merrit back in 2000 for my '54 560.  At a cost of $1500.00 bucks I thought it a great deal at the time.  Of course I assumed I'd be getting the twin caliper style I had seen on other Commanders over the years.  What I received were of Cleveland manufacture but they turned out to be a set of 4 piston - single caliper brakes, and included the requisite rotors and wheels - basically a modern version of the Goodyear's the 560 was originally fitted with.  I was assured these were proper for Commanders.  The originally fitted Goodyear brakes couldn't stop a wheel barrow on a good day.

  

 After a bit of jury rigging I was able to fit this style to the mains making sure there was clearance to the wheel well structure.  Although this set up was superior to the Goodyear's and provided performance I have always held reservations on this installation.

  

 After some further investigation some time later and consultation with the Cleveland folks (upon finding a sticker on one of the wheels when refurbishing the mains) - these "Cleveland's" were intended for fitting to Mitsubishi MU-2's.

  

 So now I'm curious is the 199-88 the twin caliper type or perhaps more along the lines of what I might have.      

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gmosh(at)charter.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Cleveland 199-88 brake kit (Beech50) STC,d for used on Comm

My intent was not to disparage Harry only to clear up whether or not a  single caliper 4 piston installation can potentially be 337'd on  a Commander.  As I indicated, for me this arrangement is far better  (ultimately safer in my opinion) than the original Goodyear brake system.   Legal or no this ersatz Cleveland setup on my 560 while not perfectly kosher  should be permitted as its simply modern technology.

  

 What I was trying to clear up - is the Beech 50 (aka 199-8 STC'd  Cleveland set up a single caliper version, or the more common twin caliper  style? 

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