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Arty Trost
Joined: 25 May 2006
Posts: 205
Location: Sandy, Oregon
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM |
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Have any of you taken a close look at the April 15
Sport Pilot NPRM changes? Any thoughts on any of the
22 proposed changes?
I'll be really glad about the change to allow us to
fly 2000' AGL, even if that takes us above 10,000'.
The biggest omission that I see - no mention of
allowing the use of ELSAs as trainers. In my area
(northwest Oregon and southwest Washington) there are
no longer any flight instructors for fixed wing ELSAs,
formerly "fat" ultralights. That means that folks who
are intrigued by Hawks, Quicksilvers, Kolbs,
Challengers, etc. have no where to go to get flight
training...unless they travel 4+ hours.
Any other thoughts about any of these proposed
changes?
Arty Trost
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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John H Murphy
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 78
Location: Henderson, NV
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM |
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ELSA cannot be used to train in???? That's news to me.
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John Williamson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 146
Location: Arlington, TX
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: April 15 Spot Pilot NPRM |
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Hi Arty and All,
You made me go and read the NPRM. It looks like a very good attempt to clean up FAR Part 61 reference Sport Pilots and Sport Pilot Instructors.
You bring up a good point about the ELSA: "The biggest omission that I see - no mention of allowing the use of ELSAs as trainers."
If you read these two FAR sections, you will see that we have never been able to use any aircraft with an "Experimental" certificate for compensation or hire. That doesn't limit the use of them for training, just being able to charge for it.
§ 21.191 Experimental certificates.
§ 91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations.
Anyone can petition their local FAA FSDO for a Letter of Authorization to allow their EAB or ELSA aircraft to perform Transition Type Training for compensation. They still won't let you train for an initial issue certificate in an EAB or ELSA that you rent from someone else.
What you need to do is find a skinny CFI to instruct in your aircraft and you can pay with a lot of meals and a little money. If you furnish the aircraft, all you need is that willing CFI to train you.
I went flying this evening in a clear, blue Texas sky, so I'm probably not thinking straight.
do not archive
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