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kevann(at)gotsky.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Hi All,



I am very happy to announce the first flight of Europa Mono Kit A211 on 

4/23/08.

Test Pilot was Bob Lindsay after an inspection and weight&balance by Kim 

Prout.

I can not possibly thank those gentleman enough!



Some facts about N211KA and first flight



Intercooled 914

Airmaster prop

Alternator on vac pump pad

Empty CG 59.25"

First Flight CG 60"

Empty Weight 886 lbs.

VSO 43 KIAS

VX 61

VY 75

First Flight total weight 1118 lbs.

Bishop airport, California



Right wing heavy when flown solo, and just a touch heavy with two up.

Engine and Prop perform just perfectly together. Temps are all good on 

the ground and in the pattern. OAT was only around 70 F, so I may have 

issues in typical high summer heat around here.



Awesome little airplane



Kevin

kevann(at)gotsky.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Correction: left wing heavy solo



Kevin Klinefelter wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi All,



 I am very happy to announce the first flight of Europa Mono Kit A211 

 on 4/23/08.

 Test Pilot was Bob Lindsay after an inspection and weight&balance by 

 Kim Prout.

 I can not possibly thank those gentleman enough!



 Some facts about N211KA and first flight



 Intercooled 914

 Airmaster prop

 Alternator on vac pump pad

 Empty CG 59.25"

 First Flight CG 60"

 Empty Weight 886 lbs.

 VSO 43 KIAS

 VX 61

 VY 75

 First Flight total weight 1118 lbs.

 Bishop airport, California



 Right wing heavy when flown solo, and just a touch heavy with two up.

 Engine and Prop perform just perfectly together. Temps are all good on 

 the ground and in the pattern. OAT was only around 70 F, so I may have 

 issues in typical high summer heat around here.



 Awesome little airplane



 Kevin

budyerly(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Congrats Kevin,

  

 Hope that the out of trim is only the left flap a little higher than the  right.  A tiny shim between the flap tube and cockpit module,  just enough to move the flap down a 64th on the flap TE is  all it takes to clear that up.  You'll find more out during the stalls and  rig checks higher up.  

  

 Enjoy,

  

 Bud Yerly

 Custom Flight Creations

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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

I thought what you said was counter intuitive it being more balanced when

you weighted the

heavy wing, but stranger things have happened. Congrats



craig



do not archive



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rlborger(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Kevin,



Congratulations on the first flight of N211KA.  Keep us posted on  

further flights.



Check six,

Bob Borger

Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

(90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch  

system in, landing gear complete, rudder system in with Singleton Mod,  

outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing  

incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in,  baggage bay in. Fuel system  

complete.  Rotax and Airmaster installed.  Mods 62, 66, 70 & 72 done.   

Completed the instrument panel install.   Europa interior kit being  

installed.  Installed windows.  Working in -  25 Electrical, 28 Flaps,  

30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing.    

Mostly finishing these days.

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208

Home:  940-497-2123

Cel:  817-992-1117



On Apr 27, 2008, at 12:07, Kevin Klinefelter wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 >



 Hi All,



 I am very happy to announce the first flight of Europa Mono Kit A211  

 on 4/23/08.

 Test Pilot was Bob Lindsay after an inspection and weight&balance by  

 Kim Prout.

 I can not possibly thank those gentleman enough!



 Some facts about N211KA and first flight



 Intercooled 914

 Airmaster prop

 Alternator on vac pump pad

 Empty CG 59.25"

 First Flight CG 60"

 Empty Weight 886 lbs.

 VSO 43 KIAS

 VX 61

 VY 75

 First Flight total weight 1118 lbs.

 Bishop airport, California



 Right wing heavy when flown solo, and just a touch heavy with two up.

 Engine and Prop perform just perfectly together. Temps are all good  

 on the ground and in the pattern. OAT was only around 70 F, so I may  

 have issues in typical high summer heat around here.



 Awesome little airplane



 Kevin

garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Congratulations Kevin!  I knew you'd make it to the end, which makes it all 

worthwhile.  Give my regards to Kim and Bob.



Garry Stout

914 Tri

Tampa FL

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cptimm(at)telus.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Congratulations Kevin,



like you already have suggested, it does get hot in Bishop in the summer. We

landed there on May 6, 2006 on our way

to Lake Havasu City and Sedona during a heat-wave. My Europa is a Classic

Mono with a 912S, and I had installed a

larger oilcooler from the beginning, which I have to block off with some

tape during our cold season, but it has always been able to cope with the

hot summer days down south.

I am experimenting with flap-seals right now and notice a very marked

increase in climb performance. When one of my

flap-seals blew out( temporary self-adhesive), the aircraft dropped a wing

in that direction, due to the increase in lift on the other side. I feel

strongly about the value of flap-seals, especially since they are cheap and

easy to install. Soft P-section

seals of the right size for your aircraft are best.

Have fun flying, it beats building by a wide margin!



Peter Timm, # 110



Pemberton, B.C.

Canada



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jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.a
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Congratulations Kevin!



Every first flight deserves a medal!



JR (Bob) Gowing in Oz     UK Kit 327 - past 50%



do not archive

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

if Bud's fix doesn't cure it a gurny flap on one aileron will. 

Congratulations Kevin. When you get to fly it yourself have a safety 

pilot like Kim on board (tell him hi from me) and when you take off keep 

the tail down as long as you can, and make sure its the first to touch 

on the landing.

The other important criterion is that both outriggers touch together and 

hold the airplane level on the ground. Also that neither collaoses which 

can catch you out.

Graham



ALAN YERLY wrote:

[quote] Congrats Kevin,

  

 Hope that the out of trim is only the left flap a little higher than the 

 right.  A tiny shim between the flap tube and cockpit module, 

 just enough to move the flap down a 64th on the flap TE is all it takes 

 to clear that up.  You'll find more out during the stalls and rig checks 

 higher up. 

  

 Enjoy,

  

 Bud Yerly

 Custom Flight Creations

 

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Gurny flap under the right aileron TE, 6" of draft excluder tape

Graham



Kevin Klinefelter wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Correction: left wing heavy solo

 

 Kevin Klinefelter wrote:

grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Peter

are your flap seals installed to seal flaps up only or both up and down?

Graham



Peter Timm wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   


	


 	  Quote: 	
		   I am experimenting with flap-seals right now and notice a very marked

 increase in climb performance. When one of my

 flap-seals blew out( temporary self-adhesive), the aircraft dropped a wing

 in that direction, due to the increase in lift on the other side. 

 

 Peter Timm, # 110

 

 Pemberton, B.C.

 Canada

b: +447739582005

Paul Boulet

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 57
Location: Malibu, California

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Kevin;

  my heart felt congratulations on reaching this milestone.  My kit was A212 and I remember all of us unloading that container so many years ago.

   

  My family seems to be taking up all my spare time now so sadly, I'm attempting to sell N914PB for a give away price (any interest out there?).

   

  Kim did my shake down too so I know what a through job he did.  He was also initial test pilot and did a smashing job.  Blessings,

   

  Paul Boulet, Malibu, CA.  Tri Gear 914 XS



Kevin Klinefelter <kevann(at)gotsky.com> wrote:

  [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin Klinefelter 



Hi All,



I am very happy to announce the first flight of Europa Mono Kit A211 on 

4/23/08.

Test Pilot was Bob [quote][b]

kevann(at)gotsky.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Hi Paul,



I too remember the day we loaded our kits up headed home.



If you are having trouble finding a buyer for N914PB, maybe that means 

you are meant to keep her for future spare time!



Thanks and all the best in whatever the future brings,  Kevin



Paul Boulet wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Kevin;

 my heart felt congratulations on reaching this milestone.  My kit was 

 A212 and I remember all of us unloading that container so many years ago.

  

 My family seems to be taking up all my spare time now so sadly, I'm 

 attempting to sell N914PB for a give away price (any interest out there?).

  

 Kim did my shake down too so I know what a through job he did.  He was 

 also initial test pilot and did a smashing job.  Blessings,

  

 Paul Boulet, Malibu, CA.  Tri Gear 914 XS



 */Kevin Klinefelter <kevann(at)gotsky.com>/* wrote:



     



     Hi All,



     I am very happy to announce the first flight of Europa Mono Kit

     A211 on

     4/23/08.

     Test Pilot was Bob



     *

     *

cptimm(at)telus.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: First Flight N211KA

Hi Fred,



the gap-seals must not interfere with the normal retraction of the flaps, 

and for that reason have to be soft and hollow.

I have also noticed an increase in cruising speed at my preset cruise rpm. 

(5100), which needs to be verified with my

GPS. It is the efficiency in cruise, which I am hoping to improve for fuel 

savings. The more noticeable boost of the climb

performance with flaps retracted came as a surprise to me.

I have talked to Alex about a week ago and he has not flown his Europa since 

last years problem with the engine.

However, he feels that somebody else with the same engine in a different 

type of home-built has come up with a solution to the problem with the fuel 

injection computer. They are going to solve the problem together as soon as 

possible.

The manufacturer of the CAM engines is quite out of the picture. It is a 

very good engine apart from the computer software.

I like your outrigger fairings. Did you make molds for the components? I now 

have molds to produce additional fairings

for the mono-wheel (7.00 McCreary). The fairings also close the large 

opening of the wheel-well, another major source of

drag. Will release pictures after painting and installing the rear part of 

the fairing.

Good building.



Peter



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