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Kolb friends,
I sold my Kolb over two years ago and have tried several times to get myself off the email list.
Would someone please help me with this?????
Thanks
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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (Dave Rains)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (MICHAEL MARKER)
3. 05:26 AM - radiator shroud (robert bean)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (John Hauck)
5. 07:03 AM - who is going to MV (boyd)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (boyd)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority? (grantr)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Firestar Project (WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com)
9. 03:19 PM - Re: radiator shroud (planecrazzzy)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: prop for sale (gary aman)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: prop for sale (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com)
12. 06:56 PM - Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
13. 07:24 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (John Hauck)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
15. 08:49 PM - tubing source? (Dana Hague)
16. 09:38 PM - Re: tubing source? (Mike Welch)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:49:14 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com>
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask first,
no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is paved
now  , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with tourist spending
money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a wonderful time.
Dave R.
--------
Dave Rains
N8086T
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181677#181677
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:51:54 AM PST US
From: "MICHAEL MARKER" <mjwings(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
I would like to enter the attached pics for the MV photo contest.
Mike Marker
Los Lunas, NM
Firestar II (503)
mjwings(at)msn.com<mailto:mjwings(at)msn.com>
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:26:29 AM PST US
From: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: radiator shroud
It took some struggle ( and sure can't compete with Uncle Craig's
work) but gotterdone. Comes off with two screws.
Looks big but it should reduce drag and improve cooling.
test flight maybe within a week.
BB
MkIII, N3851E, 100+??? hrs
DSCN1566.JPG
<pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
</b></font></pre></body></html>
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:14:23 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
Dan G:
Here is Airnav's page on Monument Valley Airport.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/UT25
Runway 16/34 is now paved.
Land 16, take off 34 always, regardless of the wind. However, if the
wind is blowing hard enough the wrong way for a safe take off, you
probably do not need to be flying. There is plenty of room to take off
to the south in a Kolb, with 4,000 feet of pavement prior to the 800
foot high vertical rock face, if it was absolutely necessary.
122.9 CTAF.
I noticed John W provided the current aerial photo of MV Airport.
I have never gotten prior permission to land at MV. If you call for
info at the desk, it will only confuse them and you. Have never had
anyone ask for my "permission slip".
Note: Field elevation is 5,192 feet, a tad less than a mile high. This
elevation has snuck up on some folks landing at MV.
Have a fun, safe flight.
john h
mkIII
What frequency does everyone use for MV traffic? Do I need to call
Gouldings before flying in (since it's private)? Any other advice for a
first time MV trip?
Thanks,
Dan G
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 07:03:03 AM PST US
From: "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: who is going to MV
Jon..
You WILL be missed (at least a little). I very much enjoyed visiting
with you last year and hope to have the privilege again soon. I am sure we
will have some photos to post,,, just enough to make you homesick for MV.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
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Do not archive
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I hope I won't be banned from the list for
fudging the subject and letting you know that I
won't be able to make MV2008. I hope somebody
will miss me, at least a little, and I will try
to get there next year.
Jon L
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US
From: "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask
first, no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is
paved now , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with
tourist spending money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a
wonderful time.
Dave R.
--------
Dave Rains
N8086T
Added note.
Land to the south runway 16. takeoff to the north runway 34. last year
runway 16 was labeled RB.
When landing runway 16 it will be up hill, the south end of the runway is
about 150 ft higher than the north end.
Hazard - 800' agl Mesa - south of the runway.
Pattern Altitude 6000 ft mls 800 ft agl.
The airport is used by commercial tour operators, twin otters, Cessna
caravans, and others,,, it can get busy at times. Be carefull.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 07:28:33 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority?
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Thanks LS.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181706#181706
________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 08:51:15 AM PST US
From: WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Firestar Project
Bill Sullivan,
I think what you have is an "original" design Kolb FireStar. This model
debuted at Sun 'N Fun in 1985 and kits were sold for several years until the
introduction of the KX/KXP models. If you can find a copy of EAA Sport Aviation
magazine, issued July 1985, you will see that the 1985 FireStar is featured
on the front cover, and inside there is a very good five page story about
Homer Kolb and his plane, with many photos.
During that time, Kolb was offering this as an Ultralight, with the
advertising literature stating a weight of 264 lbs. and the fact that it "Needs
parachute to be legal ultralight". That's because the FAA allows 24 extra pounds
if that device is used, thus an empty weight of 278 lbs. (FAA mandated UL wt.
254 lbs. + Parachute allowance of 24 lbs. = 278)
The main gear legs were 7075-T6 tapered aluminum, 1" diameter where they fit
into the airframe, and used plastic wheels with a welded up axle/bracket,
with the axle part being a 3/4" tube, and no brakes. All this was to keep the
weight down. Additional comments were to go lightly with the paint (no
silver), but did use some UV preventive in the Polyfiber (Stits) paint.
Also, as you have learned from John h and others, there was an aluminum
sleeve in the airframe to sleeve it down so the 1" legs would fit. Perhaps Homer
had planned on using brakes in the future, which would require a heavier
duty gear leg and wheel, and maybe that's why the airframe socket was made to
accommodate the larger diameter leg. That is my speculation. At any rate,
those 1" legs were VERY easy to bend, so most owners have changed them out to
the
1-1/8" size. Criminy, even the larger legs can be bent easily. hehehe
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:11:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan(at)att.net writes:
I started measuring all the spare legs I have, and the I called Travis at
TNK. I got a surprise- none of the legs are a size that he has heard of. First-
all of them are 1" diameter. Travis said there are only 3 stock diameters;
Firefly is 1 1/8", Firestar is 1 1/4", and Mark lll is 1 3/8". All are the
same length- 28 1/2". I have spares of 3 different lengths, but all are shorter.
My axle end is 3/4", and Travis said all of the ones he knows about are
7/8". He said he has heard of somebody putting a piece of pipe in the "A" frame
to bush it down,and I will look for it next trip. I have to look and measure
before ordering, so I will be out to the field next week.
He also commented that I may have some type of proto-type from the Old
Kolb Co. That might explain all the odd dimensions and no serial number.
I described the bent legs from taxi testing, and he said that some people
will make their own legs using 6061 aluminum. They are supposed to be 7075
T-651. The 6061 legs will bend just like I described.
Bill Sullivan
FS/KX/447
Windsor Locks, Ct.
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
favorites at AOL Food.
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________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 03:19:25 PM PST US
Subject: Re: radiator shroud
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com>
Hey Bob,
Damn nice job !
Hope you got those two screws "Safety wired"
..
..
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
--------
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..
..
..
..
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181797#181797
________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
Time: 04:15:27 PM PST US
From: gary aman <gaman(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: prop for sale
Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-bay.I have
two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit at the same
time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips for sale.It
was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks like new.
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use the same logic windoz uses to shut down.... go to the START button.With matronics you navigate to the SUBSCRIBE page to unsubscribe.
(happy Mac user)
BB
do not archive
On 12, May 2008, at 10:49 AM, Skywaylodge wrote:
[quote]Kolb friends,
I sold my Kolb over two years ago and have tried several times to get myself off the email list.
Would someone please help me with this?????
Thanks
In a message dated 05/08/08 03:00:40 Eastern Daylight Time, kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com) writes:
[quote]*
=========================
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
=========================
Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2008-05-07&Archive=Kolb
Text Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter=2008-05-07&Archive=Kolb
=======================
EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
=======================
----------------------------------------------------------
Kolb-List Digest Archive
---
Total Messages Posted Wed 05/07/08: 16
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 04:49 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (Dave Rains)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (MICHAEL MARKER)
3. 05:26 AM - radiator shroud (robert bean)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (John Hauck)
5. 07:03 AM - who is going to MV (boyd)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (boyd)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority? (grantr)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Firestar Project (WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com (WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com))
9. 03:19 PM - Re: radiator shroud (planecrazzzy)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: prop for sale (gary aman)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: prop for sale (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com))
12. 06:56 PM - Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
13. 07:24 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (John Hauck)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
15. 08:49 PM - tubing source? (Dana Hague)
16. 09:38 PM - Re: tubing source? (Mike Welch)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:49:14 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com (RangeFlyer72(at)yahoo.com)>
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask first,
no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is paved
now , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with tourist spending
money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a wonderful time.
Dave R.
--------
Dave Rains
N8086T
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181677#181677
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:51:54 AM PST US
From: "MICHAEL MARKER" <mjwings(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
I would like to enter the attached pics for the MV photo contest.
Mike Marker
Los Lunas, NM
Firestar II (503)
mjwings(at)msn.com<mailto:mjwings(at)msn.com>
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:26:29 AM PST US
From: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: radiator shroud
It took some struggle ( and sure can't compete with Uncle Craig's
work) but gotterdone. Comes off with two screws.
Looks big but it should reduce drag and improve cooling.
test flight maybe within a week.
BB
MkIII, N3851E, 100+??? hrs
DSCN1566.JPG
<pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
</b></font></pre></body></html>
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:14:23 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
Dan G:
Here is Airnav's page on Monument Valley Airport.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/UT25
Runway 16/34 is now paved.
Land 16, take off 34 always, regardless of the wind. However, if the
wind is blowing hard enough the wrong way for a safe take off, you
probably do not need to be flying. There is plenty of room to take off
to the south in a Kolb, with 4,000 feet of pavement prior to the 800
foot high vertical rock face, if it was absolutely necessary.
122.9 CTAF.
I noticed John W provided the current aerial photo of MV Airport.
I have never gotten prior permission to land at MV. If you call for
info at the desk, it will only confuse them and you. Have never had
anyone ask for my "permission slip".
Note: Field elevation is 5,192 feet, a tad less than a mile high. This
elevation has snuck up on some folks landing at MV.
Have a fun, safe flight.
john h
mkIII
What frequency does everyone use for MV traffic? Do I need to call
Gouldings before flying in (since it's private)? Any other advice for a
first time MV trip?
Thanks,
Dan G
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 07:03:03 AM PST US
From: "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net>
Subject: who is going to MV
Jon..
You WILL be missed (at least a little). I very much enjoyed visiting
with you last year and hope to have the privilege again soon. I am sure we
will have some photos to post,,, just enough to make you homesick for MV.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
| Quote: | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
Do not archive
| Quote: | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
I hope I won't be banned from the list for
fudging the subject and letting you know that I
won't be able to make MV2008. I hope somebody
will miss me, at least a little, and I will try
to get there next year.
Jon L
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US
From: "boyd" <by0ung(at)brigham.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask
first, no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is
paved now , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with
tourist spending money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a
wonderful time.
Dave R.
--------
Dave Rains
N8086T
Added note.
Land to the south runway 16. takeoff to the north runway 34. last year
runway 16 was labeled RB.
When landing runway 16 it will be up hill, the south end of the runway is
about 150 ft higher than the north end.
Hazard - 800' agl Mesa - south of the runway.
Pattern Altitude 6000 ft mls 800 ft agl.
The airport is used by commercial tour operators, twin otters, Cessna
caravans, and others,,, it can get busy at times. Be carefull.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 07:28:33 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority?
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com>
Thanks LS.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181706#181706
________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 08:51:15 AM PST US
From: WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Firestar Project
Bill Sullivan,
I think what you have is an "original" design Kolb FireStar. This model
debuted at Sun 'N Fun in 1985 and kits were sold for several years until the
introduction of the KX/KXP models. If you can find a copy of EAA Sport Aviation
magazine, issued July 1985, you will see that the 1985 FireStar is featured
on the front cover, and inside there is a very good five page story about
Homer Kolb and his plane, with many photos.
During that time, Kolb was offering this as an Ultralight, with the
advertising literature stating a weight of 264 lbs. and the fact that it "Needs
parachute to be legal ultralight". That's because the FAA allows 24 extra pounds
if that device is used, thus an empty weight of 278 lbs. (FAA mandated UL wt.
254 lbs. + Parachute allowance of 24 lbs. = 278)
The main gear legs were 7075-T6 tapered aluminum, 1" diameter where they fit
into the airframe, and used plastic wheels with a welded up axle/bracket,
with the axle part being a 3/4" tube, and no brakes. All this was to keep the
weight down. Additional comments were to go lightly with the paint (no
silver), but did use some UV preventive in the Polyfiber (Stits) paint.
Also, as you have learned from John h and others, there was an aluminum
sleeve in the airframe to sleeve it down so the 1" legs would fit. Perhaps Homer
had planned on using brakes in the future, which would require a heavier
duty gear leg and wheel, and maybe that's why the airframe socket was made to
accommodate the larger diameter leg. That is my speculation. At any rate,
those 1" legs were VERY easy to bend, so most owners have changed them out to
the
1-1/8" size. Criminy, even the larger legs can be bent easily. hehehe
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:11:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan(at)att.net writes:
I started measuring all the spare legs I have, and the I called Travis at
TNK. I got a surprise- none of the legs are a size that he has heard of. First-
all of them are 1" diameter. Travis said there are only 3 stock diameters;
Firefly is 1 1/8", Firestar is 1 1/4", and Mark lll is 1 3/8". All are the
same length- 28 1/2". I have spares of 3 different lengths, but all are shorter.
My axle end is 3/4", and Travis said all of the ones he knows about are
7/8". He said he has heard of somebody putting a piece of pipe in the "A" frame
to bush it down,and I will look for it next trip. I have to look and measure
before ordering, so I will be out to the field next week.
He also commented that I may have some type of proto-type from the Old
Kolb Co. That might explain all the odd dimensions and no serial number.
I described the bent legs from taxi testing, and he said that some people
will make their own legs using 6061 aluminum. They are supposed to be 7075
T-651. The 6061 legs will bend just like I described.
Bill Sullivan
FS/KX/447
Windsor Locks, Ct.
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
favorites at AOL Food.
(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 03:19:25 PM PST US
Subject: Re: radiator shroud
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy(at)yahoo.com>
Hey Bob,
Damn nice job !
Hope you got those two screws "Safety wired"
..
..
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
--------
..
..
..
..
..
Do Not Archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181797#181797
________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
Time: 04:15:27 PM PST US
From: gary aman <gaman(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: prop for sale
Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-bay.I have
two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit at the same
time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips for sale.It
was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks like new.
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Follow the directions. If you can't get that to work, click on the list administrator link at the bottom of the page and Matt can help you.
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