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williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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I suggest that anyone interested in ethanol in their fuel read the last few days of the Matronics Rotax List Digest. Very interesting, informative reading- especially for those making long CC flights.
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Bill Sullivan
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I often wonder just how much of the maligning of ethanol is being done by the oil monopoly through hacks. First they tell you the cost of food is going up because of ethanol, then they tell you its bad for your motor. Cost of food is going up because the diesel used to farm is at over 4 bucks a gallon. There is no shortage of food anywhere except where people can't afford it because it costs so much to farm it with the price of diesel. We have plenty of land to plant on, if more corn is needed they will plant more corn. In fact that is exactly what's happening right now. Corporation still have strong competition from single farmers, so they cannot do their monopoly pricing for long before farmer fred steps in and plants more. The oil companies have been ripping us off for over 100 years, they have their propaganda and pocket politicians refined about as good as they know how to refine oil. Ethanol is better for your motor, burns cleaner and cooler. It has less thermal energy per weight, so higher compression motors are needed to get the most out of it.
I think we should all be sort of skeptical and maybe angry with those who do the bidding of the oil monopoly.
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---- william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> wrote:
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I suggest that anyone interested in ethanol in their fuel read the last few days of the Matronics Rotax List Digest. Very interesting, informative reading- especially for those making long CC flights.
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Bill Sullivan
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Windsor Locks, Ct.
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DAquaNut(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: fuel |
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In a message dated 5/11/2008 1:08:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, captainron1(at)cox.net writes:
| Quote: | | Ethanol is better for your motor, burns cleaner and cooler. It has less thermal energ! |
The only people that benefit from the ethanol are the farmers ( possibly) , the processor , and the government. If there is one REAL benefit from ethanol to the consumer someone please blurt it out! When you consider the pollution created during processing, there is more polluting going on than if we just burned a gallon of plain ole gas. Ethanol causes bearings to rust and fail. Ethanol causes worse mileage. Ethanol absorbs water. It can cause trouble in our 2-strokes by causing a shortage of oil on the cylinder walls due to oil not mixing with water. Ethanol eats things regular gas wont. Ethanol causes my rotax to run hotter than with straight gas. When all is said and done Ethanol doesn't reduce pollution . The Government is cramming it down our throats . How can we fight back????? Have you noticed how much is being said about we need to conserve fuel since we are paying 4.00 a gallon. They dont have to because we are using
less fuel on average than we ever have. Its simple. You buy what they sat you can buy or you do without ----------- unless you can make it your self' It is no longer we the people. Its we the GOVERNMENT! It just kills me every time I fill up at Walmart. On the the pump it says Ethanol ---------enhanced--- BALONEY!!!!!
At least we still have a choice Take it or leave it!
This is definitely related to my Kolb!
I am off my soapbox now sorry if you did not want to listen !
Blue sky's to all!
Ed Diebel FF# 62 Do Not Archive!!!!!
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: fuel |
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ethanol bad? I agreeoil companies bad? wrong
You could buy oil company stock too.
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On 11, May 2008, at 4:33 PM, DAquaNut(at)aol.com (DAquaNut(at)aol.com) wrote:
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In a message dated 5/11/2008 1:08:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, captainron1(at)cox.net (captainron1(at)cox.net) writes:
| Quote: | | Ethanol is better for your motor, burns cleaner and cooler. It has less thermal energ! |
The only people that benefit from the ethanol are the farmers ( possibly) , the processor , and the government. If there is one REAL benefit from ethanol to the consumer someone please blurt it out! When you consider the pollution created during processing, there is more polluting going on than if we just burned a gallon of plain ole gas. Ethanol causes bearings to rust and fail. Ethanol causes worse mileage. Ethanol absorbs water. It can cause trouble in our 2-strokes by causing a shortage of oil on the cylinder walls due to oil not mixing with water. Ethanol eats things regular gas wont. Ethanol causes my rotax to run hotter than with straight gas. When all is said and done Ethanol doesn't reduce pollution . The Government is cramming it down our throats . How can we fight back????? Have you noticed how much is being said about we need to conserve fuel since we are paying 4.00 a gallon. They dont have to because we are using
less fuel on average than we ever have. Its simple. You buy what they sat you can buy or you do without ----------- unless you can make it your self' It is no longer we the people. Its we the GOVERNMENT! It just kills me every time I fill up at Walmart. On the the pump it says Ethanol ---------enhanced--- BALONEY!!!!!
At least we still have a choice Take it or leave it!
This is definitely related to my Kolb!
I am off my soapbox now sorry if you did not want to listen !
Blue sky's to all!
Ed Diebel FF# 62 Do Not Archive!!!!!
Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.
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ez(at)embarqmail.com
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: fuel |
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On May 11, 2008, at 5:54 PM, robert bean wrote:
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Nah, What are you guys thinking?
Buy a farm, raise corn ,,,,,,,,, bonus
free runway with hanger,
park tractor under old tree. no tie-downs neccessary.
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: fuel |
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At 05:54 PM 5/11/2008, robert bean wrote:
| Quote: | ethanol bad? I agree
oil companies bad? wrong
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Politicians bad.
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jstewart(at)inebraska.com
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: fuel |
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Mine's coming up for sale:
http://jstewart.inebraska.com/acreage.htm
Plenty of room in the hangar for a tractor, boat, motorhome, 2 more planes,
etc. :>)
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports, LLC
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| Quote: | Nah, What are you guys thinking?
Buy a farm, raise corn ,,,,,,,,, bonus
free runway with hanger,
park tractor under old tree. no tie-downs neccessary.
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captainron1(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: fuel |
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Ethanol bad? You will have to quit drinking beer or your favorite spirit. Ethanol is very much Vodka. We can share intimate moments withy our motors now, we can all have a drink together, after a flight that is!
Ron
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---- robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> wrote:
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ethanol bad? I agree
oil companies bad? wrong
You could buy oil company stock too.
BB
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On 11, May 2008, at 4:33 PM, DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote:
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In a message dated 5/11/2008 1:08:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
captainron1(at)cox.net writes:
Ethanol is better for your motor, burns cleaner and cooler. It has
less thermal energ!
The only people that benefit from the ethanol are
the farmers ( possibly) , the processor , and the government. If
there is one REAL benefit from ethanol to the consumer someone
please blurt it out! When you consider the pollution created
during processing, there is more polluting going on than if we just
burned a gallon of plain ole gas. Ethanol causes bearings to rust
and fail. Ethanol causes worse mileage. Ethanol absorbs water.
It can cause trouble in our 2-strokes by causing a shortage of oil
on the cylinder walls due to oil not mixing with water. Ethanol
eats things regular gas wont. Ethanol causes my rotax to run hotter
than with straight gas. When all is said and done Ethanol
doesn't reduce pollution . The Government is cramming it down our
throats . How can we fight back????? Have you noticed how much
is being said about we need to conserve fuel since we are paying
4.00 a gallon. They dont have to because we are using
less fuel on average than we ever have. Its simple. You buy what
they sat you can buy or you do without ----------- unless you can
make it your self' It is no longer we the people. Its we the
GOVERNMENT! It just kills me every time I fill up at Walmart.
On the the pump it says Ethanol ---------enhanced--- BALONEY!!!!!
At least we still have a choice Take it or leave it!
This is definitely related to my Kolb!
I am off my soapbox now sorry if you did not want to listen !
Blue sky's to all!
Ed Diebel FF# 62 Do Not Archive!!!!!
Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
favorites at AOL Food.
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