Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Vortex generators tested on Allegro

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Allegro-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
aerosiam



Joined: 26 May 2008
Posts: 59

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Vortex generators tested on Allegro Reply with quote

VORTEX GENERATORS

Please open Word attachment. The speed data has not come out correctly on this post. (The flap settings have appeared as a phone number!)Pictures of VGs fitted to Allegro in another post.

Allegro 2000 first test flight with Stolspeed VGs.
3 flights, total time about 2.5 hrs flown with instructor Michael Peare
Density alt 2,600'
CG close to forward limit
Weight 490 KG
Pictures and info for VGs at www.stolspeed.com


Test 1 - VGs half span
Test 2 - VGs full span
Test 3 VGs full span but leave gap of 80cms (30in) at wing root

POWER OFF POWER ON 3000 RPM
Flap setting 0 15 48 0 15 48

NO VG 45 40 36 44 38 35
HALF SPAN VG 43 36 36 43 37 34
FULL SPAN VG 41 36 34 38 36 34

Stall sp reduced 4 4 2 6 2 1

Airspeeds in knots – Dynon and ASI both calibrated

No VGs
Aircraft breaks and drops right wing. Significant wing drop with power on.
Little buffet just before stall. Ailerons have adverse yaw close to stall. Needs some rudder to correct wing drop.
Ailerons a little heavy.

Test 1 - VGs half span and VGs on vertical stabiliser
Ailerons lighter, more effective.
A lot of buffet warning
Power off - no break, no wing drop. Stick full back, aircraft nose high and buffets
Power on - mild wing drop, quick recovery.
Can be rolled 30 left 30 right a few knots below stall. Stable.
Ailerons can be used to roll level after stall.
Can fly 40 degree banked turn few knots below stall. Aircraft buffets and purpoises but does not break.
Small reduction stall speed except power off reduced 4 kts (at) half flap

Test 2 - VGs full span
Ailerons same as test 1.
Reduced buffet
Power off - mild wing drop, quick recovery. At zero flap, no break, descends 500'/min
Power on - break and mild wing drop, quick recovery
Significant reduction in clean stall speed, power on/off.
Aircraft can be trimmed to fly at 38 knots full flap with very high nose angle. Stable.


Test 3 - removed VGs at the wing root (approx span of the elevator) to try to get the strong buffet in test 1 with half span VGs. Made no difference.

Notes.
Factory stall warning gave good warning under all tests. For example power off, full flap the stall warn sounds (at) 42, buffet (at) 37 and stall 34
Right wing drop even from left turn with left rudder 34 kts 3,800 RPM
Increasing RPM to 4,000 full flap, stall speed same, 34 kts, wing drop not significantly worse with more power (very different to standard config with no VGs)
Stall speeds in POH say 43 - 39 - 35 kts

Conclusion
The VGs on the tail did not seem to give a noticeable difference in handling.
Results broadly similar to many aircraft i.e. large difference in clean stall speed, less so in approach configuration.
Half VGs gave the best handling but a small reduction in stall
Full VGs gave good reduction of stall speed but less buffet and more wing drop than half span
The Allegro has powerful 48 degree flaps. The inboard span stalls long before the outboard and the VGs cannot help much.
Big difference in aileron response. Much nicer to fly. Although Allegro has 11m wingspan, it feels light in roll.
Surprisingly, removing the VGs close to the wing root did not bring back the buffet that was present with half span VGs
These VGs were a simple and inexpensive way to improve safety and handling


- The Matronics Allegro-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List



VG Allegro report VGs.doc
 Description:

Download
 Filename:  VG Allegro report VGs.doc
 Filesize:  42 KB
 Downloaded:  586 Time(s)

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Allegro-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group