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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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 Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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Folks,
I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda
like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.
I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.
In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make
full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the
hangar.
I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to
mind).
Why not?
Someone educate me!
Ralph Capen
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timrvator(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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Prop strike. (prop vs nose wheel/fairing)
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Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 1000 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
Ralph E. Capen wrote:
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Folks,
I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A -
kinda like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.
I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.
In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't
make full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane
back in to the hangar.
I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come
to mind).
Why not?
Someone educate me!
Ralph Capen
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grumman1(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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grummans caster 90 deg from center, prop strike target outherwise
mike j.
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| Quote: | From: recapen(at)earthlink.net
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:58:12 -0400
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Folks,
I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda
like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.
I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.
In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make
full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the
hangar.
I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to
mind).
Why not?
Someone educate me!
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carl.froehlich(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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Not sure. On my plane however there would be interference between the forward wheel pant and gear leg fiberglass fairings.
In practice I find pushing the plane backwards to not be a problem.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (400 hrs)
RV-10 (flaps)
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MIKE JEFFERSON
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:16 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
grummans caster 90 deg from center, prop strike target outherwise
mike j.
N9805u
> From: recapen(at)earthlink.net
> To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:58:12 -0400
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net>
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> Folks,
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> I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda
> like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.
>
> I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.
>
> In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make
> full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the
> hangar.
>
> I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to
> mind).
>
> Why not?
>
> Someone educate me!
>
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jim jewell
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Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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Hello Ralph,
I think the prop arc would and or could interfere with the nose wheel
assembly under the right (or should it be said wrong ?) conditions.
Jim in Kelowna
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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Well, I wish Grummans had full swiveling nosewheels, but they do not.
They have stops to prevent rotation past 90 degrees both ways. The
problem is the wheel pants COULD end up in the prop arc (don't remember
if the tire does) which would be expensive. Sooo, I put the socket head
bolts back in!
As unlikely as it seems that the assembly could get into the prop arc in
normal operation ..... I've rolled backwards down a slight incline with
engine at idle, and the bolts stopped the nosewheel at 90 degrees,
stopping the backward roll. I had my eyes inside the cockpit ad didn't
realize I was rolling backwards until the nosewheel came up against the
stop.
It surely would be a good 'mod' to go full circle ..... at our Grumman
conventions, steering a plane backwards through a course is a main event!!!
Linn
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Ralph E. Capen wrote:
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Folks,
I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A -
kinda like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.
I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.
In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't
make full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane
back in to the hangar.
I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come
to mind).
Why not?
Someone educate me!
Ralph Capen
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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I probably should have said this before ...... The problem is usually caused by using a too-short towbar. Towbars are usually short so they can be collapsed and put in the airplane when you're not at home base. I have two ..... a longhandled one for the home hangar and a short one for traveling. Make your towbar long enough so that you can push on the prop with one hand (NOT THE SPINNER) and steer the plane with the other comfortably. Why not the spinner??? Over time they'll get small cracksin the fiberglass and fail at the most inopportune time. Aluminum spinners have been known to acquire dents from pushing on them.
Linn
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Not sure. On my plane however there would be interference between the forward wheel pant and gear leg fiberglass fairings.
In practice I find pushing the plane backwards to not be a problem.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (400 hrs)
RV-10 (flaps)
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of MIKE JEFFERSON
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:16 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
grummans caster 90 deg from center, prop strike target outherwise
mike j.
N9805u
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> Subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:58:12 -0400
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> Folks,
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> I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda
> like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.
>
> I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.
>
> In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make
> full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the
> hangar.
>
> I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to
> mind).
>
> Why not?
>
> Someone educate me!
>
>
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Mark Phillips in TN
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 431
Location: Columbia, TN
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not |
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In a message dated 05/26/2008 10:40:44 AM Central Daylight Time, carl.froehlich(at)cox.net writes:
| Quote: | > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make
| Quote: | full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the
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After deciding on a 3-blade prop (Catto), I realized this might be possible. After shoving Mojo into her hangar many, many times, I'd think it not worth the trouble. Keep the breakout force to spec, and on pavement it's very easy to do. Wrestling an -A backwards on grass is another matter altogether- best done with help, nosewheel in the air, (tail pushed down), and helpers pushing on wing LEs...
Mark
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