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dvanlanen

Joined: 25 Jul 2006
Posts: 122
Location: Madison, WI

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Wire Wrap Question

To anyone using the nylon lacing tape for wire bundle tying, (see attached e-mail from archive) – before I order some, is there any particular benefit to using black over the natural colored tape?  

Thanks,  

Dave Van Lanen  

Madison, WI  

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Date:   Nov 20, 2005   

   

From:   "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr(at)cox.net>       

   

Subject:        Re: Wire wrap  

   

>  

>After reading in Light Plane Maintenance about the bad aspects of plastic   

>ty-wraps, I am re-doing my wire stays off the engine mount with Adel   

>clamps and as suggested in the article, with the old fashion, but tedious   

>wire bundling wrap. It stated the Digikey has this stuff, but I was unable   

>to locate it in my catalog.  

>Does anyone have a source for this stuff?  

>Wayne  

    String ties don't have to be any more hassle than ty-wraps.  

    See http://aeroelectric.com/articles/cable_lace/cable_lace.html  

    for slick technique on getting a two-handed string-tie to  

    draw down as tight as a plastic ty-wrap.  

    You're looking for waxed polyester lacing tape. See Aircraft  

    Spruce catalog for listing below.  

BREYDEN NYLON LACING TAPES  

Flat braided tape manufactured from 100% high tenacity, continuous  

filament nylon yarn. This tape is impregnated with a specially formulated  

microcrystalline, fungicidal wax. Conforms to the requirements  

of A-A-52080-B-3. Recommended for continuous lacing. 500 yd.  

rolls. Width: .077" (min.) / .094" (max.); Thickness: .011" (min.) / .017"  

(max.); Tensile Strength: 50 Lb. (min.); Wax Content: 15-32%;  

Elongation: 40% (max.)  

Natural ............P/N 11-12170 .........$14.85  

Black ..............P/N 11-12160 .........$17.30 

  

    Bob . . . 

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: Wire Wrap Question

The white tends to yellow (discolor) with time.  The black is easy to find and cut when troubleshooting or rerouting damaged wires. Personal Preference applies.  

   

John Cox  

       

From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave VanLanen

 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:50 AM

 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Wire Wrap Question  

  

  

   

To anyone using the nylon lacing tape for wire bundle tying, (see attached e-mail from archive) – before I order some, is there any particular benefit to using black over the natural colored tape?  

Thanks,  

Dave Van Lanen  

Madison, WI  

----------------  

Date:   Nov 20, 2005     

From:   "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr(at)cox.net>         

Subject:        Re: Wire wrap    

>   

>After reading in Light Plane Maintenance about the bad aspects of plastic   

>ty-wraps, I am re-doing my wire stays off the engine mount with Adel   

>clamps and as suggested in the article, with the old fashion, but tedious   

>wire bundling wrap. It stated the Digikey has this stuff, but I was unable   

>to locate it in my catalog.  

>Does anyone have a source for this stuff?  

>Wayne  

    String ties don't have to be any more hassle than ty-wraps.  

    See http://aeroelectric.com/articles/cable_lace/cable_lace.html  

    for slick technique on getting a two-handed string-tie to  

    draw down as tight as a plastic ty-wrap.  

    You're looking for waxed polyester lacing tape. See Aircraft  

    Spruce catalog for listing below.  

BREYDEN NYLON LACING TAPES  

Flat braided tape manufactured from 100% high tenacity, continuous  

filament nylon yarn. This tape is impregnated with a specially formulated  

microcrystalline, fungicidal wax. Conforms to the requirements  

of A-A-52080-B-3. Recommended for continuous lacing. 500 yd.  

rolls. Width: .077" (min.) / .094" (max.); Thickness: .011" (min.) / .017"  

(max.); Tensile Strength: 50 Lb. (min.); Wax Content: 15-32%;  

Elongation: 40% (max.)  

Natural ............P/N 11-12170 .........$14.85  

Black ..............P/N 11-12160 .........$17.30  

   

    Bob . . .  

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Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 571
Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: Wire Wrap Question

If the lacing tape is exposed to UV or heat,   the black will usually last longer as there is filler in the nylon to give  it more reistence. Same goes for the nylon cable ties.

 Dale Ensing

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gyoung

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 211
Location: Republic of Texas

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Wire Wrap Question

White gets dirty very easily, both during tying and the  spool just kicking around on the workbench. Unless you have an anally clean work  area, get black.

  

 Regards,

Greg Young

  



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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:50 AM

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Subject: Wire    Wrap Question

   

   

To anyone using the    nylon lacing tape for wire bundle tying, (see attached e-mail from    archive)    – before I order some, is there any    particular benefit to    using black over the natural colored    tape?   

Thanks,   

Dave Van    Lanen   

Madison,    WI[b]

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rjquillin

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 123
Location: KSEE

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: Wire Wrap Question

At 11:35 5/28/2008, you wrote:

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		   White gets dirty very easily, both during tying and the spool just kicking around on the workbench. Unless you have an anally clean work area, get black.

  

 Regards,

 Greg Young 	


 Oooooh, I just might fit.

 I keep my white in a ziplock bag...

 Also keeps assorted dust, grit and gunk from sticking to the wax and making it less sticky.

 And I do wash my hands before using the white.



 BTW, I think it's called lacing cord, not wire wrap, which could be confused with a method of wiring.



 Ron Q.



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mlas(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: Wire Wrap Question

Yes it is wing stitch lacing cord.  It comes in waxed and un-waxed in both black and white.  I like the black too, it looks nice and it’s easier to cut off when removing.  

   

Mike  

   

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