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a.s.elliott(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

Gang:

  

 I am ready to install the carpeting in the baggage compartment of my  601XL.  It is cut and trimmed to fit, but I am unsure of the best way to  keep it in place.  Options I have thought of are:

  

     [1] spray glue

     [2] 2-sided carpet tape

     [3] plastic rivets (like in cars)

     [4] screws and fender washers

  

 I would be interested in hearing opinions and other ideas.  Note that  I am using the very light "replacement" carpeting from Wal-Mart Aviation Supply,  and I expect that it will need replacing every few years.

  

 Thanks,

 Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ

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notsew_evets(at)frontiern
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

Velcro

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

Dred-

     Criminy, go with a NASA  developed method- Velcro!!

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gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

I found that the glue on the velcro got soft in the heat of the summer and would not secure the carpet when moving thins about in the summer.  I ended up using carpet tape and it cure the movement issue.

  

 George May

 601XL 912s

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   .ExternalClass {background-position:left top;font-size:11pt;margin-left:10px;color:#000000;background-repeat:no-repeat;font-family:Courier New;}   Gang:

  

 I am ready to install the carpeting in the baggage compartment of my 601XL.  It is cut and trimmed to fit, but I am unsure of the best way to keep it in place.  Options I have thought of are:

  

     [1] spray glue

     [2] 2-sided carpet tape

     [3] plastic rivets (like in cars)

     [4] screws and fender washers

  

 I would be interested in hearing opinions and other ideas.  Note that I am using the very light "replacement" carpeting from Wal-Mart Aviation Supply, and I expect that it will need replacing every few years.

  

 Thanks,

 Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

Hi Andrew,

I used spray contact cement.  It's wise to only put it on spots, edges 

and corners if you feel it will be short lived carpet.  I haven't seen 

any degradation in my cheap carpet in 4 years and doubt it will ever 

need replacement.

Good idea to put an aluminum hold-down strip with screws on the carpet's 

front exposed edge.

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Dr. Andrew Elliott wrote:

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		   Gang:

  

 I am ready to install the carpeting in the baggage compartment of my 

 601XL.  It is cut and trimmed to fit, but I am unsure of the best way 

 to keep it in place.  Options I have thought of are:

  

     [1] spray glue

     [2] 2-sided carpet tape

     [3] plastic rivets (like in cars)

     [4] screws and fender washers

  

 I would be interested in hearing opinions and other ideas.  Note that 

 I am using the very light "replacement" carpeting from Wal-Mart 

 Aviation Supply, and I expect that it will need replacing every few years.

  

 Thanks,

 Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ

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 601XL/TD, Corvair (very close now!), building...

Gig Giacona

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Carpet hold-downs?

This is true the glue on all the Velcro I've ever used didn't last.  But I love Velcro so I suggest you get Velcro with  NO glue and then use some quality glue to attach it. 

 	  gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote: 	
		  I found that the glue on the velcro got soft in the heat of the summer and would not secure the carpet when moving thins about in the summer.  I ended up using carpet tape and it cure the movement issue.

  

 George May

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

make half inch thick block of plywood, and place then in key spots, then from the outside, screw them fixed, then place your velco to attached the panel, or tap screw.



Juan



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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

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		  Dr Elliott:For what it's worth.I also used the light weight Wal-Mart auto trunk carpet in my XL baggage area. I did not use anything to hold it down and have had no problems.My  baggage floor is zinc chromate primed .Tony GrazianoXL/Jab; N493TG; 382 hours of fun flying in my XL-----------------[b]Carpet hold-downs?From:    Dr. Andrew Elliott (a.s.elliott(at)cox.net ([email]a.s.elliott(at)cox.net?subject=Re:%20Carpet%20hold-downs?&replyto=056a01c8c34a$5afbd970$6501a8c0(at)desktop[/email]))Date:    [b]Sat May 31 - 11:18 AM[/b] 	  Quote: 	
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		  Gang:



I am ready to install the carpeting in the baggage compartment of my 

601XL.  It is cut and trimmed to fit, but I am unsure of the best way to 

keep it in place.  Options I have thought of are:



    [1] spray glue

    [2] 2-sided carpet tape

    [3] plastic rivets (like in cars)

    [4] screws and fender washers



I would be interested in hearing opinions and other ideas.  Note that I 

am using the very light "replacement" carpeting from Wal-Mart Aviation 

Supply, and I expect that it will need replacing every few years.



Thanks,

Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ

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601XL/TD, Corvair (very close now!), building...

	
	
	
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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

I have used velcro with glue which holds it in  place while I rivet it for permanent hold. On the fabric side, I suggest sewing  it on. An upholstery shop can do that if you can't do it yourself.

  

 Ed

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rtdin

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Location: Florida panhandle

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

I'm thinking something else. I had one pick up truck bed Rhino Lined and another Line-Exed. I have to put a sheet of plywood in if I want to slide anything in or out. Its non skid and lasts forever. Good color choices. I'm also looking at wing walks too. 

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ronlee

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Carpet hold-downs?

I live in the desert and my experience has been that stick on Velcro only sticks for a while. The only way I've found to keep in on is to pop rivet it with big head rivets. Even the good brand 3M came loose after awhile. My entire baggage compartment and passenger area on my 701 is lined with auto trunk carpet that is applied with 3M spray or Weldwood brush on contact cement. Two years in the desert heat (110+ degrees) and sticking well. If you brush the Weldwood  on one side, press it to mating surface and pull it back a bit, enough wet cement will transfer to the mating surface to form a bond.  Keep it away from the mating surface and let it dry for ten to fifteen minutes. Go back and then press it firmly in place. You will have a permanent job that is quick and easy.

 Ron Lee 

Tucson, AZ

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psm(at)att.net
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

Hi Bob,



 My only question is how much will that coating weigh.  It may use up your baggage allowance and give you difficulties with weight & balance if it is too heavy.  That wouldn't be an issue in a truck bed.



 Paul

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 At 12:55 PM 6/1/2008, you wrote:



 [quote]I'm thinking something else. I had one pick up truck bed Rhino Lined and another Line-Exed. I have to put a sheet of plywood in if I want to slide anything in or out. Its non skid and lasts forever. Good color choices. I'm also looking at wing walks too. 

 Somebody stop me if I'm off base.

 Bob



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PatrickW

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Carpet hold-downs?

 	  rtdin wrote: 	
		  I had one pick up truck bed Rhino Lined and another Line-Exed. 



Good color choices. 



I'm also looking at wing walks too. 	




Do you spray this on, or brush it on?  How many cans do you think it would take to do the baggage area?  How about the wing walks?  



How heavy is the can? (trying to get a feel for how heavy the rhino stuff is, knowing that the final dried-on product will be lighter than the full can that it came from when it was wet).



Sounds like it might be a good idea.  Anybody tried something like this?



Thanks,



- Pat

ronlee

Joined: 25 Dec 2006
Posts: 141

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Carpet hold-downs?

I used AUTO TRUNK carpet, not not truck box liner. That would be very heavy for an airplane.

 The trunk carpet I got from Pep Boys and or Checker Auto,it is extremely light.  The adhesive doesn't amount to a hill of beans for weight.

Ron Lee

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ggower_99(at)Yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Carpet hold-downs?

I (hand) sew one side of the velcro to the carpet and put a rivet in each end  or the velcro in the aluminum.   Has worked fine. 

  

Saludos 

Gary Gower. 

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   #yiv1302408629 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1302408629  .hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}  I found that the glue on the velcro got soft in the heat of the summer and would not secure the carpet when moving thins about in the summer.  I ended up using carpet tape and it cure the movement issue.

 

George May

601XL 912s

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Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:15:47 -0700



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 I am ready to install the carpeting in the baggage compartment of my 601XL.  It is cut and trimmed to fit, but I am unsure of the best way to keep it in place.  Options I have thought of are:

  

     [1] spray glue

     [2] 2-sided carpet tape

     [3] plastic rivets (like in cars)

     [4] screws and fender washers

  

 I would be interested in hearing opinions and other ideas.  Note that I am using the very light "replacement" carpeting from Wal-Mart Aviation Supply, and I expect that it will need replacing every few years.

  

 Thanks,

 Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ

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