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Dennis Jones
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Location: Poplar Grove, IL
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 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: Gruber batteries |
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http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-pc-680.asp
Could this work as the same as the odyssey PC-680? It appears to be more amp hours and CCA,same size and weight and helps out on the pocket book. I can't find out if it is a RG type.It appears that it will fly upside down for those so inclined.
Jonsey
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luckymacy
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: Gruber batteries |
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Good call. I think you are really on to something. Not withstanding Gruber calls this battery the pc 680 too, their specs pretty much prove one is trying to be a direct replacement for the other. They are both AGM type and physically pretty much identical. Here's Gruber's specs:
Equivalent to: UB22-12NE
Gruber Part Number 58-GPS-22-12NE
Electrical Specifications Style Voltage Amp/Hour Amp/Hour [b]AGM 12 Volt 22 AH 420 Amps
Dimensions Length Width Height Weight 7.00" 3.00" 6.60" 14 lb[/b]
Chemistry SLA The state-of-the-art lead-acid battery is the valve-regulated type (sometimes called "sealed" or maintenance-free), which fixes the acid electrolyte in a gel or in an absorptive fiberglass mat. The advantage of this design is that the battery needs no water additions, can be operated in any position, and can be used in close proximity to people and sensitive equipment. Additional benefits: maintenance-free,sealed no-leak design, higher cranking amps, lower self-discharge, greater vibration resistance, heavy duty, no-corrosion terminals
and here's Odysseys: http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680.htm
PC 680 Specs:
- 680 cranking amps for 5 seconds
- 595 cranking amps for 10 seconds
- 525 cranking amps for 20 seconds
- 17 amp hours
- Short circuit current over 1800A
- 25 minute reserve capacity with 25amp load
- Female brass terminal w/M6 SS bolt
- Length 7 1/16"
- Width 3"
- Height 6 9/16"
- Weighs less than 15 lbs
Odyssey design: - 2 year full warranty
- Rugged Drycell sealed design
- Military grade
- Vibration resistant
- 60% more starting power
- Deep discharge reserve power
- 2 year storage life
- 8-12 year design life
- Can be mounted flat or upright
The Odyssey pc 680 is a AGM battery. From their FQT web page:
Are these gel cells?
No, the ODYSSEY is NOT a gel cell. It is an absorbed electrolyte type
battery, meaning there is no free acid inside the battery; all the acid is
kept absorbed in the glass mat separators. These separators serve to
keep the positive and negative plates apart.
What is the difference between gel cell and AGM?
The key difference between the gel cell and the absorbed glass mat
(AGM) is that in the AGM cell all the electrolyte is in the separator,
whereas in the gel cell the acid is in the cells in a gel form. If the
ODYSSEY battery were to split open, there would be no acid spillage!
That is why we call the ODYSSEY a Drycell™ battery
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From: "Dennis Jones" <djones(at)northboone.net>
http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-pc-680.asp
Could this work as the same as the odyssey PC-680? It appears to be more amp hours and CCA,same size and weight and helps out on the pocket book. I can't find out if it is a RG type.It appears that it will fly upside down for those so inclined.
Jonsey
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simon(at)synchronousdesig
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Gruber batteries |
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Dennis, it’s probably comparable to the Odyssey PC-680, i.e., same size, weight and performance specs. It may or may not be comparable in service life due to internal construction and materials used. The best way to determine this is for enough of us to use it and report back. In the circles I run in, the Odyssey PC-680 is an incredible battery that provides excellent performance and provides long service life. It uses virgin lead and great quality control to accomplish this. I myself use the PC-925L, which is a bigger battery, to crank over my O-320 and provide longer battery life in case of engine/alternator out. It is one heck of a battery. It replaced a Concord CB-25 and there is absolutely no comparison.
I’m not putting down the Gruber Power or any other vendor. If anyone has great testimony or experience with them, please speak up. We can always use excellent products to help us all choose better products. All I’m saying above is that Odyssey is a known good vendor and great product, but no one really knows anything about the Gruber unless someone speaks up.
Simon
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Subject: Gruber batteries
http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-pc-680.asp
Could this work as the same as the odyssey PC-680? It appears to be more amp hours and CCA,same size and weight and helps out on the pocket book. I can't find out if it is a RG type.It appears that it will fly upside down for those so inclined.
Jonsey
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