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Hello glider builders,
Can someone give me some input on the two questions below ? The manual gives little or no information on how to fit the ailerons, and there is no one left at the factory who knows anything about the long wings.
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1) I am doing a dry-fit of the ailerons, but I notice that the GA02 plate with AN4 bolt etc. is projecting above the top of the aileron (see page 7-6, diag. 13), and it couldn't possibly fit into the narrow closeout.
The only solution is to cut a slot into the top wing skin. What did you do ? Maybe a small fairing on the wing would reduce turbulence in that spot.
2) The manual tells us to bond on the outer panel and then fit the ailerons. That doesn't make sense to me, as there is no guarantee that the ailerons will still fit, and then I would have a real problem. The short wings were closed with aileron in place and a spacer between aileron and wing skin. I intend to do it the same way with the glider wings. I can already see that the aileron is rubbing against the closeout a little at each end and I am removing a small piece of the carbon fiber closeout for clearance. How did you fit
the ailerons ?
Best regards,
Karl
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terrys(at)cisco.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Glider wings |
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Hi Karl,
1) You are correct in saying the aileron push rod and rod end will need a slot in the top of the skin and a small fairing on top to make it clean. We fabricated a soft aluminum piece and bonded it in place with silicon caulk (RTV).
2) The ailerons do not fit the closeouts very well. As I recall, we needed to grind away a good portion of the rear of the closeout, and ended up with the ailerons a little higher than the top of the closeout and just live with it.
regards,
Terry Seaver
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Subject: FW: Glider wings
Hello glider builders,
Can someone give me some input on the two questions below ? The manual gives little or no information on how to fit the ailerons, and there is no one left at the factory who knows anything about the long wings.
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1) I am doing a dry-fit of the ailerons, but I notice that the GA02 plate with AN4 bolt etc. is projecting above the top of the aileron (see page 7-6, diag. 13), and it couldn't possibly fit into the narrow closeout.
The only solution is to cut a slot into the top wing skin. What did you do ? Maybe a small fairing on the wing would reduce turbulence in that spot.
2) The manual tells us to bond on the outer panel and then fit the ailerons. That doesn't make sense to me, as there is no guarantee that the ailerons will still fit, and then I would have a real problem. The short wings were closed with aileron in place and a spacer between aileron and wing skin. I intend to do it the same way with the glider wings. I can already see that the aileron is rubbing against the closeout a little at each end and I am removing a small piece of the carbon fiber closeout for clearance. How did you fit
the ailerons ?
Best regards,
Karl
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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Hi Terry,
Thank you for that confirmation. On question 2, did you do the final bonding with the aileron in place ? In theory,
that should have given a good fit.
regards,
Karl
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:29:19 -0700
From: terrys(at)cisco.com
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
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1) You are correct in saying the aileron push rod and rod end will need a slot in the top of the skin and a small fairing on top to make it clean. We fabricated a soft aluminum piece and bonded it in place with silicon caulk (RTV).
2) The ailerons do not fit the closeouts very well. As I recall, we needed to grind away a good portion of the rear of the closeout, and ended up with the ailerons a little higher than the top of the closeout and just live with it.
regards,
Terry Seaver
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:17 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: FW: Glider wings
Hello glider builders,
Can someone give me some input on the two questions below ? The manual gives little or no information on how to fit the ailerons, and there is no one left at the factory who knows anything about the long wings.
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1) I am doing a dry-fit of the ailerons, but I notice that the GA02 plate with AN4 bolt etc. is projecting above the top of the aileron (see page 7-6, diag. 13), and it couldn't possibly fit into the narrow closeout.
The only solution is to cut a slot into the top wing skin. What did you do ? Maybe a small fairing on the wing would reduce turbulence in that spot.
2) The manual tells us to bond on the outer panel and then fit the ailerons. That doesn't make sense to me, as there is no guarantee that the ailerons will still fit, and then I would have a real problem. The short wings were closed with aileron in place and a spacer between aileron and wing skin. I intend to do it the same way with the glider wings. I can already see that the aileron is rubbing against the closeout a little at each end and I am removing a small piece of the carbon fiber closeout for clearance. How did you fit
the ailerons ?
Best regards,
Karl
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