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Coloradodan

Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Location: Frederick, CO

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: 801 Landing Light

Any words of wisdom on landing light placement for the 801?

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: 801 Landing Light

On my 801 I fabricated an aluminum plate the sandwiches between the front gear leg and the fork. This is the place I attach my tow bar to and the top surface is where I mounted my landing light. A 3" round spot beam, I took out the 55 watt halogen bulb and replaced it with a 130 watt racing one. Works good for me..  I did see an 801 at OSH, I think it was Larry Landucci',. He mounted his on the front of the landing gear just inboard of where it attaches to the brackets. he used two lights, the little oval ones. Bottom of the fuselage will shade the light from the pilots eyes and cast a nice pattern under  and out in front of the plane. If I had to do mine over again I probably do it his way... 



Ben Haas

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Coloradodan

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: 801 Landing Light

Thanks Ben.  Do you have any up close and personal shots of your mount.  Super sharp plane by the way.

Dan

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: 801 Landing Light

You might get a look at it on some of the pics on my website. www.haaspowerair.com 

also it might show up on my new video thats up on the web. 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7272451917550730841&hl=en 

if you need a close up pic I can head to the hangar and click a few off. Let me know.

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n85ae

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: Re: 801 Landing Light

On my Kitfox I made a bar that I attach across the fueslage bottom to

my float attach points using clevis pins. I have three tabs welded to it

and use Halogen driving lights on it. I have a quick disconnect plug

so I can unplug the bar when not using it. Time on or off is about 2 

minutes. On my 125hp Kitfox, I have flown it with three 6" Driving lights

and don't notice any reduction in cruise or climb speed and I look like

a 747 when on final approach to land. I feed the lamps via a 12V 60A

relay.



Here's a pic of the bar when I was in the process of first installing it



http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/img0786.jpg



Another nice thing is light reflected off the belly gives me great ground

illumination in the flare. Particularly helpfull in a taildragger. 



Probably going to put a detachable light bar system on my 801 as well.

I have wingtip halogens as well in the Kitfox but have never been happy

with them.



Jeff

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Coloradodan

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: 801 Landing Light

Jeff,

That's right up my alley. Thanks!

I need to rig the entire lighting system so this is a big help.



Dan

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: Re: 801 Landing Light

I think people discount the light bar idea, it works really well and is very

convenient. Especially since it is easily removable. I leave it on all the

time though. It looks cool as well, and I have had a lot of comments

at the airport when people see it. Not to mention favorable comments 

over the radio from jealous pilots holding short when they see how

well I am lighting the runway on final.



When I built my Kitfox I put halogen wingtip lights in it. Personally I was

never happy with them. They were difficult to align, and I never did get

good runway illumination. Putting on the light bar worked great. The 

lights are big, they are close to the fueslage and probably well inside

the turbulated air along the bottom so they don't produce a lot of drag.



With the big halogens I can aim the plane and illuminate the runway

all the way on final. Reflected light off the belly easily illuminates the

ground under the plane on short final which really helps in the tail

dragger at night. Anybody who has landed a taildragger at night 

will know exactly what I mean, since it can be a hair raising feeling

flaring into a dark void when you can't see over the nose.  I think

in a trigear it will be even better.



I welded the light bar together myself in an evening, it took a LOT less

time to put together than fitting the lenses to the tips for the wingtip

lights, were I to do it all over I would have never put in the tip lights

to begin with.

 

I think if I built a Lancair I would probably not think about a light bar, 

but on a utility plane ... I think they are a great solution.



Regards,

Jeff

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: 801 Landing Light

I agree, it is a great idea.... 

do not archive

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I think people discount the light bar idea, it works really well and is very

convenient. Especially since it is easily removable. I leave it on all the

time though. It looks cool as well, and I have had a lot of comments

at the airport when people see it. Not to mention favorable comments 

over the radio from jealous pilots holding short when they see how

well I am lighting the runway on final.



When I built my Kitfox I put halogen wingtip lights in it. Personally I was

never happy with them. They were difficult to align, and I never did get

good runway illumination. Putting on the light bar worked great. The 

lights are big, they are close to the fueslage and probably well inside

the turbulated air along the bottom so they don't produce a lot of drag.



With the big halogens I can aim the plane and illuminate the runway

all the way on final. Reflected light off the belly easily illuminates the

ground under the plane on short final which really helps in the tail

dragger at night. Anybody who has landed a taildragger at night 

will know exactly what I mean, since it can be a hair raising feeling

flaring into a dark void when you can't see over the nose.  I think

in a trigear it will be even better.



I welded the light bar together myself in an evening, it took a LOT less

time to put together than fitting the lenses to the tips for the wingtip

lights, were I to do it all over I would have never put in the tip lights

to begin with.



I think if I built a Lancair I would probably not think about a light bar, 

but on a utility plane ... I think they are a great solution.



Regards,

Jeff





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