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cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

I passed the private pilot written exam today with a 98%.   





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Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009

lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

You my dear are an "Over achiever",  

Larry C, Oregon

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

Congrats Cristal your on the home stretch now  )

  

 Ellery 

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  In a message dated 6/16/2008 7:32:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com writes:

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I passed the private pilot written    exam today with a 98%.   





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cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: One less hurdle

I just LOVE flying and am so HAPPY to have the opportunity (finally) to learn it and do it!  This is me and my goofy grin holding that precious piece of paper stamped in red with "DO NOT LOSE THIS REPORT".

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Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009

jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

Cristal, Congrats!!!! We all are infected  by your enthusiasm. Thank you 

for keeping us posted, your private ticket is not far away!



Jim Kmet

Cookeville, TN

MK-3C (Flying)

Kolbra (Under Construction)



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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

She's gotta lot of nerve, eh fellas?  Doesn't she know from looking  

at some of the list portraiture

that real Kolb drivers are decrepit, infirm, gray or no hair, bad  

tempered,  don't smell too good either.



She doesn't meet any of these criteria.

well, we will need replacements eventually, guess it's ok

BB

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On 16, Jun 2008, at 8:49 PM, cristalclear13 wrote:



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 I just LOVE flying and am so HAPPY to have the opportunity  

 (finally) to learn it and do it!  This is me and my goofy grin  

 holding that precious piece of paper stamped in red with "DO NOT  

 LOSE THIS REPORT".



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 Cristal Waters

 Mark II Twinstar





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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: One less hurdle

Cristal , You dont know me but I have been following your adventure for a while , Congratulations! good job , They are great aircraft , fly safe Chris 



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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: One less hurdle

Congratulations!



Gadzooks! You are a lot prettier than most of us old codgers.



Cheers



Pat

Snoopy Baxley

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 42

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

I passed the private pilot written exam today with a 98%.   

  

 Holy Peggy Flagstaff Batman !!!.....It's a  GurLLLLLLL Pilot !!!

 Congratulations Cristal !!..... Way to go  !!....Glad to have you as a Kolber..

  

 Stephen Baxley

 Kolb Firefly

 www.southernflyers.com

  

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cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: One less hurdle

Thank you all!  I'm glad I have this group (and the handful of Waycross "airport bums" friends who encouraged me to start this path and have helped so much along the way) to share my steps of progress.  Most of my friends and family are NOT pilots so they don't understand the challenges of each hurdle.  With each accomplishment they ask, "So do you have your license yet?"



I have some time off this week and am trying to fit in as much as I can.  I completed my first solo cross country today.  I flew to Vidalia from Waycross (57NM one way) in the Cessna 150.  My instructor wanted me to practice using VOR and ADF along the way.  I don't have those in my Kolb and besides I am still trying to make sure my Kolb is running right.  I'll start a separate thread to talk about that.



You guys are great encouragement!  Thanks!  (and Pat, I think that is the first time I've ever been told I look better than an old codger...I'm going to take that as a compliment )



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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009

aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

Congratulations Cristal, it is good to see some young blood enjoying the 

great sport of flying. The Kolb is a great platform for viewing the world 

from.Like you I have many friends who dont fly or understand the flying bug. 

Some of them do however enjoy a fly round from time to time. In time your 

friends too will come to understand that we are not all crazy and our little 

craft are indeed safe . I am sure you will become a great ambassadore for 

the sport.  Keep it up ,you are doing just great.

Stay safe up there.

Regards

            Tony

 Kolb  MK111

          503

          400hrs



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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: One less hurdle

and Pat, I think that is the 

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		   first time I've ever been told I look better than an old codger>>


	


Waaaaaay better! Better than most of the young codgers too.



Pat

NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

Cristal



It's great to hear about getting your pilots license. It's a lot of work. 

Today we hear of to many that are continuing to fly illegally without a 

license. And a few that try to fly with almost no training and hurt them 

selves. Keep us informed of your progress.



I wonder about your instructor wanting you to practice ADF and VORs. It 

surprises me that these instruments are still in airplanes. Are you getting 

GPS training or glass cockpits? I suppose you still had to learn to decode 

weather briefings for your written. Check out Pilot-Mycast for your cell 

phone. There is everything you can get from a weather briefer direct, 

graphic and decoded.



Also are you able to get flight training in something closer to a Kolb. Are 

you going to fly off some of your hours in your Kolb? Be real careful 

letting a GA instructor fly your plane or instruct in it. Pilots used to the 

big heavies don't do well in a Kolb. The CFI instructor for Old Kolb told me 

his most difficult students were long time GA pilots and instructors.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW powered MKIIIC

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cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: One less hurdle

Thanks Rick,

I received my Kolb training from Jim Kmet, an experienced Kolb pilot and an excellent CFI.  Since he signed me off, I AM flying off some of my required solo hours in my Kolb.  I find learning about and becoming very familiar with every available resource, even if it is "old-fashioned", is well worth it.  It's good to have a back-up.  (You never know when some crazy country will decide to blow up our GPS satellites, right? - wouldn't that cripple a lot of people...not just pilots.)  I can use and operate my husband's GPS.  It is a small one and doesn't have many features but it would tell me what direction I'm flying and where I've been.  I will learn more advanced GPS when I can afford to buy one.    



My current instructor is training me in a 1977 Cessna 150.  I began learning to fly with just the intention of going up and seeing the view, which my Kolb serves that purpose, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of one day renting a Cessna and taking a little trip or taking up a few friends and family.  My Mark II will only take a 200 lb passenger (I have many family and friends larger than that) and even then the passenger seat is very small and cramped such that even a 160 lb passenger might be uncomfortable.



After I had some Kolb training, but before I got my sign off some older pilots hanging around the airport urged me to fast taxi or do crow hops, but luckily one of my mentors there said, "That is too dangerous" and proceeded to explain why.  The others would have had me believe that fast taxiing or crow hopping (without further training) would be a good thing.  I suppose those are the same type of people who would throw me in a pool saying, "Sink or swim".  Isn't that what they used to do in the "old days"?  



Hindsight is much easier than foresight and it's easy for people to say, "You shouldn't have done that...that was too dangerous."  It might even be the same people who told you to do it!  Sometimes an action can seem very logical and practical at the time and unless you have someone around who has been there...done that or perhaps even heard about the dangers of doing something, you may very well do something dangerous and sometimes you may make it through ok, and sometimes not.  I just pray that I'll always have someone around who's "been there, done that" and that I'll have the ears to listen.



Thanks,

Cristal Waters

Kolb Mark II 

    

  	  NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net wrote: 	
		  Cristal



It's great to hear about getting your pilots license. It's a lot of work. 

Today we hear of to many that are continuing to fly illegally without a 

license. And a few that try to fly with almost no training and hurt them 

selves. Keep us informed of your progress.



I wonder about your instructor wanting you to practice ADF and VORs. It 

surprises me that these instruments are still in airplanes. Are you getting 

GPS training or glass cockpits? I suppose you still had to learn to decode 

weather briefings for your written. Check out Pilot-Mycast for your cell 

phone. There is everything you can get from a weather briefer direct, 

graphic and decoded.



Also are you able to get flight training in something closer to a Kolb. Are 

you going to fly off some of your hours in your Kolb? Be real careful 

letting a GA instructor fly your plane or instruct in it. Pilots used to the 

big heavies don't do well in a Kolb. The CFI instructor for Old Kolb told me 

his most difficult students were long time GA pilots and instructors.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW powered MKIIIC

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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009

jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

Rick, when on a checkride, its up to the examiner on some options to "check 

out" the applicant on, and other options, like navigation, some things are 

not an option. "Tracking a  radio navigation aid" is one of those Have to 

do`s", according to the examiner I use. Any Piece of equipment that is in 

the plane that`s being used on the checkride is fair game, therefore, if it 

has a VOR & ADF  in it, not being up to speed on it, at least minimally, is 

grounds for grounding, ( pun intended)

It also depends on Cristal`s  instructor`s relationship with the intended 

examiner, if the CFI knows it`s a "hotbutton" with that particular examiner, 

guess what, " Today we`re going to learn about VOR & ADF.

Also, if Her airport is like mine, If you want to fly an ILS, or localizer 

approach, without an IFR GPS in the Plane, the NDB is the final approach 

fix, & gotta have one (ADF) to do it>

Keep that Red VW Humming........

Jim Kmet

Cookeville, TN

CFII

MK-3C (Flying)

Kolbra (Under construction)

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cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: One less hurdle

Last day of my vacation and I finished my long solo cross country today.  What fun! My instructor has scheduled my checkride for July 16th.  It's so close I can almost taste it.    



I can't wait to have a passenger with me in my Kolb.

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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009

ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: One less hurdle

Cristal 

 good luck on your check ride on 16JUL08, you will be  having passengers before you know it, Im happy for yea )

  

 Ellery in Maine 

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  In a message dated 6/20/2008 9:53:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  cristalclearwaters(at)juno.com writes:

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Last day of my vacation and I    finished my long solo cross country today.  What fun! My instructor has    scheduled my checkride for July 16th.  It's so close I can almost taste    it.    



I can't wait to have a passenger with me in my    Kolb.

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Mark II    Twinstar





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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: One less hurdle

GOOD ON YOU CRISTAL!  GO GIRL!!

It's all worth it

On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:50 PM, cristalclear13 wrote:



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 Last day of my vacation and I finished my long solo cross country  

 today.  What fun! My instructor has scheduled my checkride for July  

 16th.  It's so close I can almost taste it.   



 I can't wait to have a passenger with me in my Kolb.

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 Cristal Waters

 Mark II Twinstar





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NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: One less hurdle

Jim



It is so great that we have such talent in our group. Thanks for responding.



The point I was trying to make is that there is so much to learn that to

teach VORs and ADFs is really a waste. This equipment is expensive and

inaccurate. No one in there right mind would even spend the money to repair 

one

if it quit working when they could purchase a GPS for less money and get so

much more. Its not just navigation accuracy its also the wealth of

information at your fingertips. It would seem that pilot training should

teach for the current and future not some antiquated equipment that should 

be phased out.



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		   Also, if Her airport is like mine, If you want to fly an ILS, or localizer

 approach, without an IFR GPS in the Plane, the NDB is the final approach

 fix, & gotta have one (ADF) to do it>


	


You got me there. I never did a ILS or localizer approach. Never got my IFR

rating either. My enjoyment of flying is visual, if I can't see the ground I 

don't want to be flying.



I assume that pilot weather reports are still coded and pilots still need to

learn the coding system for the written exam. Again a waist of time. Years

ago when there were teletype machines and fast data communication was at 103

baud there was a need for coded weather reports. Today with weather 

briefers, decoded reports on DUAT and even more current real data on cell 

phones there is no need to read coded data. The FAA should take the money 

they spend on coding weather reports and spend it on staying up to date.



Sorry for my rant, I know you don't make the rules and there are some things 

that have to be

taught because it says so. That doesn't make it right or that we can't try

to change it.



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Redrive VW powered MKIIIC



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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: One less hurdle

 	  NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net wrote: 	
		  Jim



It is so great that we have such talent in our group. Thanks for responding.



The point I was trying to make is that there is so much to learn that to

teach VORs and ADFs is really a waste. This equipment is expensive and

inaccurate. No one in there right mind would even spend the money to repair 

one

if it quit working when they could purchase a GPS for less money and get so

much more. Its not just navigation accuracy its also the wealth of

information at your fingertips. It would seem that pilot training should

teach for the current and future not some antiquated equipment that should 

be phased out.

	




Don't mean to barge in on this thread but I don't really understand the animosity towards VOR's that seems to have cropped up recently.  It's actually not "inaccurate", true it does take some skill to learn to use it at first, but after that you really appreciate its simplicity and reliability.



The debate about GPS is contentious and has been going on for quite a while now. The key point being whether to start using it as the _sole_ means of navigation (rather than as just one means among several).



That appears to be part of what's behind the effort to eliminate things like VOR's. Just teach how to use a GPS and then no need to learn all this other "outdated" technology.



I may be kinda old-school, but I think that's a ridiculous (and dangerous) idea for a variety of reasons that I won't go into here (unless we want a GPS vs other navigation methods thread).



In small planes like ours, of course, GPS tends to be a lot more practical, for size and cost reasons usually. But truth is, if I could fit a decent King VOR in my titan I'd do it in a heartbeat (the one in my A22 barely works).



Or heck, any of you guys throwing away your old VOR's, give it to me. I'll _make_ the sucker fit.....



As for the ILS, I don't recall too many ILS's that require an ADF. Many require DME, but I've seen some you can shoot with just a VOR and a LOC/GS. 



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