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cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Lopresti Fury

Anyone out there hear about this plane the lopresti fury. They are promising 220mph cruise out of 10gph.

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[quote] From: James, Clive R <clive.james(at)uk.bp.com>

 Subject: RE: Wallmart spray booth

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 Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:34 AM

 

 R" <clive.james(at)uk.bp.com>

 

 That is a neat idea, the gazebo, as it is known in the UK,

 would be a

 great temporary booth. Even in a big space to stop the

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 about a barn. Need an airfed mask though I think, CJ 

 

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N1BZRich(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: Lopresti Fury

Hi Charles,

     In the Lopresti Fury you have come across a really  interesting aircraft in both a performance and historical  perspective.  I don't know the latest as to the Lopresti  Fury's possible production, but it seems to still be hanging on based on  its being at OSH and Sun-N-Fun most years.  The history starts in the  1940s with the design of the Globe Swift which was an all metal, two place,  retractable gear airplane that started off with a small Continental of 85 to 90  HP.  I don't know if any were produced with that engine, but it soon had  125 HP which gave it much better performance.  The Globe Swift  was actually produced by a company called TEMCO which I think stands for Texas  Engineering and Manufacturing Company.  Production started after WWll in  say 1946 or so and went on for several years.  Over the years, based on the  great design, the airplane has been modified and cared for by various  owners and many restored versions of the original now have bigger engines,  and sticks verses yokes.  They are highly prized by their owners.

     Some years ago, Roy Lopresti, known  for cleaning up several production aircraft to give them better  performance, worked his "lower drag" magic on the design and even came up with  an updated version called the Swift Fury with the idea to start  production.  For what ever reason that became the Lopresti Fury as it is  known today.  It is a beautiful airplane with apparently great  performance.  I would love to have one of the new ones or a restored Swift  with sticks and larger engine.  

     And to keep this message kind of connected to the  Lightning list, note that the air intakes on the Lightning cowling use round  Lopresti "style" inlets that are sized to provide the correct amount of air for  engine cooling without over doing it which would add drag.  

 Blue Skies,

 Buz



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Kayberg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Lopresti Fury

And now from Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition,

  

 There seems to be something of a cult following of the Swift, which is  simply an old slow airplane with complex systems.  Even with Lopresti's  name, it was doomed.  Steve Whitman, of air racing and Tailwind fame, used  to beat the early (125 hp)Swifts in takeoff and top speed with only an 85 hp  engine!  He would takeoff, climb to 10 feet and land in the same distance  as a Swift would use to take off.  Then he would beat them in the  air.  The payloads were similar.

  

 There is a reason that after at least 3 attempts at continous production,  the Swift is DOA.  Even the LoPresti name hasnt been able to do much with  it.

  

 We have a 150 hp one on the field at Green Landings.  It is usually  apart for something, engine problems, gear problems, fuel leaks,  etc.   It rolls like a pig compared to the Lightning.

  

 Yes, a turbo 210 HP Swift might  get up to 210 MPH at 10 gph.......at  25,000 feet!   (you bring the O2)

  

 I suspect the real world cruise is more like 180 at 9.5 below 10,000  feet.   And the cost for the latest versions is very salty for what  you get.  You could probably get a turbo Mooney for less money with the  same fuel burn.....and have two more seats!!

  

 Dont forget to put the gear down!!!

  

 Just my thoughts.

  

 Doug Koenigsberg

  

 In a message dated 7/2/2008 10:18:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  N1BZRich(at)aol.com writes:

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		     Hi Charles,

       In the Lopresti Fury you have come across a    really interesting aircraft in both a performance and historical    perspective.  I don't know the latest as to the Lopresti    Fury's possible production, but it seems to still be hanging on based on    its being at OSH and Sun-N-Fun most years.  The history starts in    the 1940s with the design of the Globe Swift which was an all metal, two    place, retractable gear airplane that started off with a small Continental of    85 to 90 HP.  I don't know if any were produced with that engine, but it    soon had 125 HP which gave it much better performance.     The Globe Swift was actually produced by a company called TEMCO which I    think stands for Texas Engineering and Manufacturing Company.  Production    started after WWll in say 1946 or so and went on for several years.  Over    the years, based on the great design, the airplane has been modified and cared    for by various owners and many restored versions of the original now    have bigger engines, and sticks verses yokes.  They are highly prized by    their owners.

       Some years ago, Roy Lopresti, known    for cleaning up several production aircraft to give them better    performance, worked his "lower drag" magic on the design and even came up with    an updated version called the Swift Fury with the idea to start    production.  For what ever reason that became the Lopresti Fury as it is    known today.  It is a beautiful airplane with apparently great    performance.  I would love to have one of the new ones or a restored    Swift with sticks and larger engine.  

       And to keep this message kind of connected to the    Lightning list, note that the air intakes on the Lightning cowling use round    Lopresti "style" inlets that are sized to provide the correct amount of air    for engine cooling without over doing it which would add drag.  

   Blue Skies,

   Buz



	


 

  



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N1BZRich(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: Lopresti Fury

In a message dated 7/2/2008 11:06:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  Kayberg(at)aol.com writes:

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		     And now from Her Majesty's Loyal  Opposition,

	


 

 Damn, don't you just hate it when someone has actual numbers and  facts.  

 Buz



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Lopresti Fury

In a message dated 7/2/2008 10:18:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich(at)aol.com writes:

 

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		    In the Lopresti Fury you have come across a really interesting aircraft in both a performance and historical perspective.  I don't know the latest as to the Lopresti Fury's possible production, but it seems to still be hanging on based on its being at OSH and Sun-N-Fun most years. 	


 

 I understand from my new friends at the FSDO that someone is putting an IO 540 in a Swift. The aircraft will be  Experimental Catagory. They are having to replace the entire tail section to provide the necessary area. Maybe this is the LoPresti Swift? 

 

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Kayberg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Lopresti Fury

In a message dated 7/2/2008 11:13:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  N1BZRich(at)aol.com writes:

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   Damn, don't you just hate it when someone has actual numbers and    facts.  

   Buz



	


 

  

 Actually, I was a bit pissy on my previous post. 

  

 Every airplane has its down side, but by definition, someone is in love  with it.  At Osh Kosh you will see the dumbest of designs, ugly, slow or  pitiful; yet someone will be proud of it.  One of the reasons to not share  what you think of someone else's plane.   We pilots can be a sensitive  lot.

  

 But I also tire of hearing all the hype of a particular airplane  ...knowing there is much more to the story.   Since I have never  flown a Swift, I really dont know what I am talking about in terms of actual  performance.  There is a reason why people love them.  But I dont  think they are in the class of the modern composite in terms of speed, which is  what started this thread.

  

 While the Lightning may not have the top speed of a 200 hp Swift,  it  will outrun most of them while burning less fuel.  And you dont have to  fiddle with the prop pitch, leaning the carb, and remember to put the gear up or  down....not to mention the wildly reduced maintenance.   

  

 doug



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: Lopresti Fury

In a message dated 7/2/2008 11:38:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  Kayberg(at)aol.com writes:

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		     Actually, I was a bit pissy on my previous post.  

	


 

 Hey Doug,

     Don't be so hard on yourself.  "Sharing  opinions" is one of the benefits of this (and all) list.  Besides,  "differences of opinions" is what makes horse races - and betting on ball games,  cock fights, and interesting poker games, etc.  So keep letting us know  what you think.  I have seen some pearls of wisdom in your thoughts and  writings.

 Buz



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