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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Tail Wheel set Up Reply with quote

OK Guys here is a picture of my problem...the top leaf that I am
holding,is the single leaf that I took off my KF2...OK every one
following me?now the bottom 2 leafs are the ones that I bought from
Kitfox.and I left the 3 leaf off..OK?now see the different angle?? see
how much different??this is why I can not control My KF2 on the
ground.ALL SO i TOOK THE Maul Tail wheel apart.and lubed and greased it
all up.and now it is locking back in to place.the tail wheel was not
locking in to place befor but now it is..BUT now the angle has me
stumped ,on what to do.. :-\ all so would it be better for me to use 1
main spring and the helper spring together.instead of the 2 leaf
springs??I am new to all of this.KITFOX tail wheel problems.And I need
all of your advice....Thanks Again STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2 with
the little but mighty 582


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Tail Wheel set Up Reply with quote

steve shinabery wrote:
Quote:
OK Guys here is a picture of my problem...the top leaf that I am
holding,is the single leaf that I took off my KF2...OK every one
following me?now the bottom 2 leafs are the ones that I bought from
Kitfox.and I left the 3 leaf off..OK?now see the different angle?? see
how much different??this is why I can not control My KF2 on the
ground.ALL SO i TOOK THE Maul Tail wheel apart.and lubed and greased
it all up.and now it is locking back in to place.the tail wheel was
not locking in to place befor but now it is..BUT now the angle has me
stumped ,on what to do.. :-\ all so would it be better for me to use 1
main spring and the helper spring together.instead of the 2 leaf
springs??I am new to all of this.KITFOX tail wheel problems.And I need
all of your advice....Thanks Again STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2
with the little but mighty 582

270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM
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All so Guys,,this kitfox2 ,all so all ready once had the tail wheel

broke off,and the rudder replaced at that time.befor I owned it..this is
why I want to go to the 2 or 3 leaf spring set up..I want to do alot
more off airport landings..I have all so put the new Tundra Tires+new
Matco rims and brakes on to my KF2..so I want to change the tail
wheel.befor it gets broke off again.and a bigger repair bill..Thanks
STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Tail Wheel set Up Reply with quote

Steve-
Here's a picture of my tailwheel setup, using all three leaves as
sold by Kitfox. I drew a line through the spindle. See how the lines
hits the ground ahead of the tailwheel contact point with the ground?
This is the principle of castering. If the projected line through the
spindle makes "contact" with the ground ahead of...forward of...where
the tailwheel contacts the ground, the tailwheel will follow the
aircraft...or the car, or the shopping cart, etc....the principle is
the same for all.
Looking at your picture, I don't see a problem with the angle of the
spring. Unless you have a different Maule tailwheel setup than mine,
it should work the same as mine, which is perfect...even with me at
the controls.
Have you tried to taxi it after lubing everything? If it was me, I'd
try the two main leaves like you have shown in the picture, grease
between the leaves, bolt on the tailwheel assembly just tight enough
to clamp everything together, but still allow the bolt and nut to be
turned with some force (how much?...I dunno, you'll have to try it).
Bounce the rear end up and down, and see if the spring flexes. If it
does, try to taxi with it. It should work fine. But be sure that the
"projected line through the center of the spindle makes contact in
FRONT of the tailwheel contact point."

Like I preach whenever the subject comes up, I suggest using the two
main leaves AT LEAST, and the helper/booster leaf if you prefer.
(Think where you'll be if you go with only one main leaf, and that
main leaf breaks.) This is what I have, and my 'fox weighed 43 pounds
at initial weigh-in. It's probably 44 by now, with the extra leaf and
longer bolts, spacers, etc.

By the way, have you got the original Maule wheel....the hard one,
that is too heavy (my opinion) for our planes? If so, I'd get the
Homebuilder's Tailwheel from Spruce...you know the address.


Lynn

On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:25 PM, steve shinabery wrote:

Quote:
OK Guys here is a picture of my problem...the top leaf that I am
holding,is the single leaf that I took off my KF2...OK every one
following me?now the bottom 2 leafs are the ones that I bought from
Kitfox.and I left the 3 leaf off..OK?now see the different angle??
see how much different??this is why I can not control My KF2 on the
ground.ALL SO i TOOK THE Maul Tail wheel apart.and lubed and
greased it all up.and now it is locking back in to place.the tail
wheel was not locking in to place befor but now it is..BUT now the
angle has me stumped ,on what to do.. :-\ all so would it be better
for me to use 1 main spring and the helper spring together.instead
of the 2 leaf springs??I am new to all of this.KITFOX tail wheel
problems.And I need all of your advice....Thanks Again STEVE
SHINABERY N554KF KF2 with the little but mighty 582


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Tail Wheel set Up Reply with quote

At 02:25 PM 7/8/2008, you wrote:
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OK?now see the different angle?? see how much different??

Steve,
The bend looks quite different, but the angle looks very
similar. (That is, the angle the tailwheel assemble sits at.)
Certainly it doesn't look so different as to cause problems. It does,
though, look as though the tailwheel's moved forward a couple of
inches, dramatically increasing the angle of the control cables
between the rudder and the tailwheel. It may be that you're not
getting the leverage you used to and need stiffer tailwheel springs.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade
100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Tail Wheel set Up Reply with quote

Have to agree, that angle should be that same with the new spring.

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