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Michel
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 Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: BRS and 2 strokes |
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| Quote: | From: Michael Gibbs [MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net]
Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's
not what ships are for."
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Arrr, matey! The sea is for sailing!
.. incidentally, I never wanted a liferaft in my sailboat. The reason is: statistics show that you have better chance to stay on the boat than trying to launch and board a liferaft in a storm. An English saying is: "You can abandon the vessel when you stand on the spreaders (half-way up the mast) and the water reaches your shoulders."
The Fastnet race of 1979 saw the worst storm in history. Fifteen sailors died but only one ship went down. The others were found floating in the water ... among empty liferafts.
Likewise, I feel that a BRS is somewhat of a danger since once deployed, you're not anymore the pilot but a passenger. When would you use it, anyway? If a surface departed the aircraft? Some years ago, a pilot from my airfield flew a Jora microlight aircraft and the left wing departed. The aircraft had a BRS but the pilot never managed to deploy it as it went into a mad spin.
In any other situation, I would try to put the plane down at a place I find best suited.
.. but that's me. Guys, don't sue me for my writing; my lawyer will prove in court that I am stupid and not responsible of my writing! 
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
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Michel
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: BRS and 2 strokes |
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| Quote: | From: Michael Gibbs [MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net]
I'm going to be quiet again now...
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Please don't Mike. If you hadn't started the maritime content, I couldn't show off with my maritime experience! ... okay, my turn to shut up and leave the room now!
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
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Guy Buchanan
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: BRS and 2 strokes |
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At 12:03 AM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | Likewise, I feel that a BRS is somewhat of a danger since once
deployed, you're not anymore the pilot but a passenger. When would
you use it, anyway? If a surface departed the aircraft? Some years
ago, a pilot from my airfield flew a Jora microlight aircraft and
the left wing departed. The aircraft had a BRS but the pilot never
managed to deploy it as it went into a mad spin.
In any other situation, I would try to put the plane down at a place
I find best suited.
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Well,
They ARE very popular with the ultralight crowd, precisely
for saving their buns when essential pieces leave. (This happens, for
some reason, fairly often.) Ultralights also have a problem with
glide ratio. We've had a couple of local saves.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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JetPilot
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: Re: BRS and 2 strokes |
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Likewise, I feel that a BRS is somewhat of a danger since once deployed, you're not anymore the pilot but a passenger. When would you use it, anyway? If a surface departed the aircraft? Some years ago, a pilot from my airfield flew a Jora microlight aircraft and the left wing departed. The aircraft had a BRS but the pilot never managed to deploy it as it went into a mad spin.
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NOTHING works all the time... There are plenty of cases where seatbelts in cars do not save the driver, but I still use my seatbelt, because it gives me a much better chance of surviving. I have seatbelts and a BRS in my plane because it gives me a better chance....
I would not consider my BRS for an engine out situation unless I am over steep mountains, or very unusual circumstances, I have to agree with Michael on this one.
In the cae of a wing failure, control failure, or any other of a million things that can go wrong, I would already just be a passenger at that point. I would rather be a passenger in a plane beneath a chute than a passenger in a plane plummeting towards the ground at an incredible rate of speed !
Mike
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Michel
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: BRS and 2 strokes |
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| Quote: | From: JetPilot [orcabonita(at)hotmail.com]
I would rather be a passenger in a plane beneath a chute than a passenger in
a plane plummeting towards the ground at an incredible rate of speed !
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Very good point, Mike! I would rather too.
But my point was - like for the maritime liferaft - that I am not sure to trust my reaction and being afraid to do what, at the moment, seems the easy way out when flying the plane to the ground would perhaps be better.
I was not advocating the non use of the ballistic chute, merely saying why I have second thought using them. Perhaps if you trust your judgement better than I do mine ... It's a personal thing.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
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