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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Prison airspace |
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Ray
I think overfly regs are on a local basis for state prisons at least;
each prison seems to decide what they want to ask for.
The State Prison at Stormville NY (N69) is INSIDE the traffic pattern
for the airport, and does get flown over occasionally without any
huge outcry. This airport makes more money with its flea markets than
it does as an airport, also 'wide cracks &weeds on runway', according
to AOPA.
And no snow removal. Not much traffic now, but there are some UL's
and at least one gyrocopter. I fear its days are numbered, too bad,
it's been there forever.
I'm sure there are some rules somewhere for Federal prisons. The FCI
at Danbury (DXR) is a reporting point on approach; it's just under 4
miles away, in class D airspace. Nothing on the sectional other than
a small black square and the word 'prison'. Lit up like you wouldn't
believe at night. Never heard of a complaint for overflights, even
when Leona Helmsley was there. A common-sense approach seems to be
working, but they haven't yet returned phone calls.
Russ
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On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:10 AM, jb92563 wrote:
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I seem to remember something in the regs about not overflying
Federal prisons at less than 2000' AGL or something like that.
That would make it quite a problem on the approach end of a runway
unless you have a Heli.
Ray
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Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202)
Moni MotorGlider
Schreder HP-11 Glider
Riverside County, CA
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Thom Riddle
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Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Prison airspace |
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My home airport (KBQR) is about 16 miles NW of the infamous Attica State Prison. Since all of my flights originate either eastbound or southbound (Canada to the west, and Lake Ontario to the north), many of them put me over or near Attica prison. Just to be on the safe side, I fly either high or wide (out of shotgun range) in case the guards mistake me for a clay pigeon or Canadian goose.
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Dana
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: Prison airspace |
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At 07:19 AM 7/10/2008, Thom Riddle wrote:
| Quote: | ...Just to be on the safe side, I fly either high or wide (out of shotgun
range) in case the guards mistake me...
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I'm not far from Sing Sing prison on the Hudson River. No flight issues,
the prison isn't even marked on the aero charts, but if you get too close
in a boat the guards will fire warning shots across your bow. It's kind of
a rite of passage for the young bucks in the local sailing clubs to sail up
there and get fired on. I suspect the guards know this as well.
-Dana
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