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n601xs(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: XL wing installation

I'm at the point of installing the wings on my XL and am looking for tips on how others have accomplished this feat. When I trimmed back the wing where it intersects the fuselage I left  and extra 10 - 15  mm, so I will have to have it held in place while I mark for a final cut. I should have several bodies available but was thinking about using saw horses or something similar to carry the weight. What have others done?

 

Craig S.

N601XS, 601xl  lyc 0-235, 99% complete

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DaveG601XL

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: Cincinnati, Oh

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: Re: XL wing installation

Craig,



I did the wing install with one low-slung table, a cushion and my wife holding the end of the wing.  A saw horse or two can work also, but you should have them cushioned for protection.  As the wing is inserted, use an inspection mirror to watch the spar holes pass by each other.  I cut mine similar to yours in that I left 10-15 mm over the print dimensions.  When I inserted the wing, the inner most wing spar holes lined up with the outermost center spar holes so I knew just how much further I had to go.  I trimmed a bit at a time until all three holes lined in and than made about a 1/4" gap between the fuselage and wing skin.  Do not be too aggressive, especially on the leading edge, it is easy to over cut this if you do not pay attention to the rear channel alignment.  The gap on mine is just a bit bigger than I would like, but I think I can live with it.  Matt from  www.zodiacxl.com over-cut his to an unacceptable extent and his web site shows the repair he did to resolve it.



Good luck!

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Cincinnati, OH area

Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: XL wing installation

Craig,



The attached photo shows how I did it.  I had another guy helping, but with this setup, I could have done it alone.  



I trimmed the wing skins to the cut line from the drawings.  As I recall, the only extra trimming I had to do was on the bottom for the gear bracket.

I had the right amount of gap to install the rubber wing root gasket. Let me know if you have questions.



Jay in Dallas

"Craig Spainhower" <n601xs(at)gmail.com> wrote:



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		  I'm at the point of installing the wings on my XL and am looking for tips on

how others have accomplished this feat. When I trimmed back the wing where

it intersects the fuselage I left  and extra 10 - 15  mm, so I will have to

have it held in place while I mark for a final cut. I should have several

bodies available but was thinking about using saw horses or something

similar to carry the weight. What have others done?



Craig S.

N601XS, 601xl  lyc 0-235, 99% complete

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paulrod36(at)msn.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: XL wing installation

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  I'm just finishing up my wing installation rack------I'm using four   swiveling casters from Harbor Freight, lockable, and a wood frame. Two four foot  1"x8" boards with the casters in from the ends about 3", separated by a stud  length (92" long--ya use what ya got) 2x4 spine. The uprights are suitably  braced 2x4's, and 2x4 T-bars at top. The uprights are NOT equal. You'll need to  measure out how far from the fuselage you want the inner wheels to be, then go  to a trig table on the Net. You'll figure out the tangent of 5.5 degrees, using  the selected location of the inboard support, then figure the distance from  inner to outer, and figure the height of the outer.   In my case, I  used the measured height of the bottom of the carry-through, 26",  went 24"  out, which made the inner support 31" (above the floor) and then figured the  outer support at 40.5. It doesn't need to be very precise. You'll compensate for  minor errors with carpeting on the top crossbars, and move in or outward along  the wing as necessary to get the precise height. I'm told that if you get it  right, you can lock the wheels, and slide the wing in. Murphy's Law will  probably prevail when I get it out to the hangar, but it'll be close  enough.  One of the guys in my hangar cautioned me that the rear of the  wing wants to sag, and to make sure it's well supported.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

 601XL/Corvair

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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: XL wing installation

nice paint job.  how did you do the nose art?



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Builder601xl(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: XL wing installation

Craig

  

 The easiest way to do it is to use an engine hoist and 2 straps. That  alloys you to pivot the wing and slide it into the center section by yourself.  When it is just right the 6 bolts slide right in.

  

 I made a template that I can send you for trimming the wings. I have used  it for 3 601xl's now and it will be a much better fit than Zenith's cutout  pattern. Some will caution you not to use them but if you want I will send them  to you if you promise to send them back because others have asked me about  using them. If you decide to use them the root seal will not need anything  to hold it in place other than 2 rivets at the trailing edge.

  

 Jeff

 www.aeroliteproducts.com

 502-644-8123 



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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: XL wing installation

Hey Juan,



Thanks for the "atta boy"! For the nose art, I drew and colored the dragon with AutoCAD. I printed it out full size to check for sizing.  I created a reverse image in the same file. I e-mailed the AutoCAD file to World Class Graphics.  They sent me a proof and when I approved it (with minor adjustments) they made vinyl decals.  That's what you see on "Lil Bruiser".  Fun stuff!



Jay in Dallas

Juan Vega <amyvega2005(at)earthlink.net> wrote:



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nice paint job.  how did you do the nose art?



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ding(at)tbscc.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: XL wing installation

Craig,

              I just used a table and shimmed the wing with cushons to the  correct vertical position, using the mirror/ hole alignment method.  Conservatively trim the wing root skin area as you work it in toward the  fuse, using a marker to draw trim marks parallel to th fuse side skin. Pay  attention also to the rear spar position. I used long soft bolts with tapered  ends to help nudge the holes into alignment. I trimmed many times in the process  to finally get the correct clearance, which is determined by the rubber root  moulding. I epoxied a minor extension back on to support the rubber where I  trimmed a bit too far.        I found the  whole job to be easier than expected. 

                                                                                                                    Lynn

                                                                                                                    601 XL / Corvair         painting 

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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: XL wing installation

I used an engine hoist which lifted a yoke made  from 2" aluminum square tube that I had left over from wing and fuselage  building. I had used the square tubes as supports while jigging and building  those parts. I cut slots in both ends of the square tube to accept 1"  ratchetcing web straps and drilled a 1/2" hole vertically in the center of the  square tube for a lynch pin where the hook of the hoist attaches to it. I  used 2 x 4 blocks at the wing's trailing edge and suspended the wing with the  ailerons and flaps off. The hoist provides vertical adjustability and since it  has roller casters, it can be moved with reasonable precision. You have to  establish the right balance point span-wise for the web straps.

  

 That being said, I trimmed a little at a time, many  many times to creep up on the final cut.

  

 Ed

 601XL/Jabiru 3300 

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n601xs(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: XL wing installation

Thanks to all for the response on installing the wing. I had an engine hoist at my previous location but don't have one available now so I will probably use a combination of saw horse and table with cushions for protection. 

 

Craig S.

N601XS

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kkinney

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 42

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: Re: XL wing installation

[quote="n601xs(at)gmail.com"]I'm at the point of installing the wings on my XL and am looking for tips on how others have accomplished this feat. 

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I'm not claiming to be an expert, but here's how I do it - 

http://www.instructables.com/id/Installing-Wings-Solo/



Regards,

Kevin Kinney

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