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ernieth(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: new engine

Anyone at Oshkosh see this?



LYCOMING TO OFFER LSA ENGINE

Lycoming is entering the light sport aircraft (LSA) arena. At Oshkosh

the company unveiled a new fuel-injected engine, derived from a model

well known to general aviation. Dubbed the IO-233-LSA, the

four-cylinder engine produces 100 hp at 2,400 rpm and has a 2,400-hour

TBO. The engine is rooted in the familiar 235-model line, but the

company took several steps to save weight with lighter parts. The

engine has a dry weight of 200 to 210 pounds and burns 5.25 gph at 75

percent power. It comes standard with dual electronic spark ignition,

throttle body fuel injection, and a lightweight starter and

alternator. It can run on ethanol-free unleaded fuel. Lycoming expects

to bring the engine to market next year under the ASTM (American

Society of Testing and Materials) standards that govern the LSA

industry. It did not announce

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: Re: new engine

I saw story and thought "Great, now can they just guarantee that we will be able to find ethanol-free unleaded fuel."



Since it isn't going through the regular FAA certification process it should help keep the price down unless Lyc just doesn't know how to price an engine below $25k.

 	  ernieth(at)gmail.com wrote: 	
		  Anyone at Oshkosh see this?



LYCOMING TO OFFER LSA ENGINE

Lycoming is entering the light sport aircraft (LSA) arena. At Oshkosh

the company unveiled a new fuel-injected engine, derived from a model

well known to general aviation. Dubbed the IO-233-LSA, the

four-cylinder engine produces 100 hp at 2,400 rpm and has a 2,400-hour

TBO. The engine is rooted in the familiar 235-model line, but the

company took several steps to save weight with lighter parts. The

engine has a dry weight of 200 to 210 pounds and burns 5.25 gph at 75

percent power. It comes standard with dual electronic spark ignition,

throttle body fuel injection, and a lightweight starter and

alternator. It can run on ethanol-free unleaded fuel. Lycoming expects

to bring the engine to market next year under the ASTM (American

Society of Testing and Materials) standards that govern the LSA

industry. It did not announce

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

rtdin

Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 46
Location: Florida panhandle

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: new engine

This would be nice if it would bolt up to existing Dyna-Focal mounts. BTW, is ethanol-free non-leaded fuel still available?

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Re: new engine

 	  rtdin wrote: 	
		  This would be nice if it would bolt up to existing Dyna-Focal mounts. BTW, is ethanol-free non-leaded fuel still available?

	


It is in South Arkansas but not in North Arkansas. In Central Arkansas it seems to be a hit or miss thing and depends where they get their gas from.



For the record I've made 4 trips in the past couple of months all the way (N-S) across the state on the same highways with the cruise control ON pretty much the whole way. I fill up here with real gas and drive to Blytheville and then fill up there with ethanol laced stuff. On all four trips my mileage has been a little over 22mpg with real gas and a little less than 20mpg with ethanol. 



This seems to prove to me that ethanol is providing 10% less power gas. So think about that as you are filling up at high DA with corn syrup....I mean Ethanol.

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: new engine

Gig,

did you find that the engine ran leaner as well,? I found that on mine so fuel buen was high due to that as well.



Juan



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Re: new engine

I have no idea how lean my truck's engine was leaning. All I know is that it burned 10% more of stuff that I paid the same $4.10 for when it had ethanol.

 	  amyvega2005(at)earthlink. wrote: 	
		  Gig,

did you find that the engine ran leaner as well,? I found that on mine so fuel buen was high due to that as well.



Juan



--

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

jimandmandy(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: new engine

Try and buy one for your project at any price. They, like TCM, are after the S-LSA OEM market, not homebuilders. I tried several times to get a price quote on a new 0-200 from TCM and from their major distributors. They never get back to me, and its not that easy to even find someone at these companies willing to talk to you.



--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>

Subject: Re: new engine

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 9:07 AM



[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona"

<wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>



I saw story and thought "Great, now can they just guarantee that we will

be able to find  ethanol-free unleaded fuel."



Since it isn't going through the regular FAA certification process it

should help keep the price down unless Lyc just doesn't know how to price an

engine below $25k.



ernieth(at)gmail.com wrote:

[quote] Anyone at Oshkosh see this?

 

 LYCOMING TO OFFER LSA ENGINE

 Lycoming is entering the light sport aircraft (LSA) arena. At Oshkosh

 the company unveiled a new fuel-injected engine, derived from a model

 well known to general aviation. Dubbed the IO-233-LSA, the

 four-cylinder engine produces 100 hp at 2,400 rpm and has a 2,400-hour

 TBO. The engine is rooted in the familiar 235-model line, but the

 company took several steps to save weight with lighter parts. The

 engine has a dry weight of 200 to 210 pounds and burns 5.25 gph at 75

 percent power. It comes standard with dual electronic spark ignition,

 throttle body fuel [quote][b]

ernieth(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: new engine

hi

At sun and fun I got that feeling from continental. I told the

lycoming sales booth that I was ignored. They seemed a lot more

interested in talking to the lone builder

E



On 8/1/08, Jimbo <jimandmandy(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Try and buy one for your project at any price. They, like TCM, are after the

 S-LSA OEM market, not homebuilders. I tried several times to get a price

 quote on a new 0-200 from TCM and from their major distributors. They never

 get back to me, and its not that easy to even find someone at these

 companies willing to talk to you.



 --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>

 Subject: Re: new engine

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 9:07 AM



 

 <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>



 I saw story and thought "Great, now can they just guarantee that we will

 be able to find ethanol-free unleaded fuel."



 Since it isn't going through the regular FAA certification process it

 should help keep the price down unless Lyc just doesn't know how to price an

 engine below $25k.



 ernieth(at)gmail.com wrote:

> Anyone at Oshkosh see this?

>

> LYCOMING TO OFFER LSA ENGINE

> Lycoming is entering the light sport aircraft (LSA) arena. At Oshkosh

> the company unveiled a new fuel-injected engine, derived from a model

> well known to general aviation. Dubbed the IO-233-LSA, the

> four-cylinder engine produces 100 hp at 2,400 rpm and has a 2,400-hour

> TBO. The engine is rooted in the familiar 235-model line, but the

> company took several steps to save weight with lighter parts. The

> engine has a dry weight of 200 to 210 pounds and burns 5.25 gph at 75

> percent power. It comes standard with dual electronic spark ignition,

> throttle body fuel injection, and a lightweight starter and

> alternator. It can run on ethanol-free unleaded fuel. Lycoming expects

> to bring the engine to market next year under the ASTM (American

> Society of Testing and Materials) standards that govern the LSA

> industry. It did not announce

 --------

 W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona

 601XL Under Construction

 See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196013#196013

n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: new engine

This one of my main compliants with the "Experimental Aircraft Assoc". If they allow a vendor to display at their Airventure they must require the same vendor to make all products available to the homebuilder. They would have little problem doing this. Just add a clause in the contract anyone must sign to have a booth at OSH. If they don't want to sell to homebuilders then they can display and sell to the people at the "Certified Aircraft Assoc" gathering.... Hmmm Whats that ? Their is no Certified Aircraft Assoc ??  <GGG> 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com 

Lifetime EAA member....

-- ernie <ernieth(at)gmail.com> wrote:

--> Zenith-List message posted by: ernie <ernieth(at)gmail.com>

hi

At sun and fun I got that feeling from continental. I told the

lycoming sales booth that I was ignored. They seemed a lot more

interested in talking to the lone builder

E

On 8/1/08, Jimbo <jimandmandy(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Try and buy one for your project at any price. They, like TCM, are after the

 S-LSA OEM market, not homebuilders. I tried several times to get a price

 quote on a new 0-200 from TCM and from their major distributors. They never

 get back to me, and its not that easy to even find someone at these

 companies willing to talk to you.

 --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>

 Subject: Zenith-List: Re: new engine

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 9:07 AM

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona"

 <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>

 I saw story and thought "Great, now can they just guarantee that we will

 be able to find ethanol-free unleaded fuel."

 Since it isn't going through the regular FAA certification process it

 should help keep the price down unless Lyc just doesn't know how to price an

 engine below $25k.

 ernieth(at)gmail.com wrote:

> Anyone at Oshkosh see this?

>

> LYCOMING TO OFFER LSA ENGINE

> Lycoming is entering the light sport aircraft (LSA) arena. At Oshkosh

> the company unveiled a new fuel-injected engine, derived from a model

> well known to general aviation. Dubbed the IO-233-LSA, the

> four-cylinder engine produces 100 hp at 2,400 rpm and has a 2,400-hour

> TBO. The engine is rooted in the familiar 235-model line, but the

> company took several steps to save weight with lighter parts. The

> engine has a dry weight of 200 to 210 pounds and burns 5.25 gph at 75

> percent power. It comes standard with dual electronic spark ignition,

> throttle body fuel injection, and a lightweight starter and

> alternator. It can run on ethanol-free unleaded fuel. Lycoming expects

> to bring the engine to market next year under the ASTM (American

> Society of Testing and Materials) standards that govern the LSA

> industry. It did not announce

 --------

 W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona

 601XL Under Construction

 See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

 Read this topic online here:

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196013#196013

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rtdin

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Posts: 46
Location: Florida panhandle

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: new engine

Jimbo and others, ZAC offers new Lycs and Continentals on their web site. 

 RTD

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