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eddyfernan(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: Alternator part number? |
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On the way back from Oshkosh to Florida my alternator died (lasted 2 years). Switched off the main bus and ran the E bus all the way home (thanks Bob N.). It was a 35 amp externally regulated part #14184. Anyone out there know what the part number is for the same type of alternator except in 55 amp unit externally regulated?
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nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: Alternator part number? |
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At 03:04 PM 8/8/2008 -0400, you wrote:
| Quote: | On the way back from Oshkosh to Florida my alternator died (lasted 2
years). Switched off the main bus and ran the E bus all the way home
(thanks Bob N.). It was a 35 amp externally regulated part
#14184. Anyone out there know what the part number is for the same type
of alternator except in 55 amp unit externally regulated?
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I'm wondering if that was originally an externally regulated
unit. There's a lot of not terribly favorable traffic that
comes up on a Google search about that part number as a Van's
supplied alternator. There's a 'stock', probably internally
regulated version offered on Ebay right now:
http://tinyurl.com/6crakr
It appears to be an older, external fan ND. If yours
runs externally regulated, then do you know who might
have modified it to bypass the internal regulator?
About any of the more modern, internal fan ND alternators
would mechanically adapt to your installation and are
pretty easy to acquire up to at least 60A output.
If you're presently using external regulation, you have
a choice of changing over to keep the internal regulator
that will certainly come with the alternator, or to
embark upon an external regulator mod-program that's not
terribly hard to do.
That same supplier on Ebay is offering a wide variety
of alternators that are sure to include a 50-60 amp
machine in the more modern frame. You might drop them
an email and inquire. For example, this item
http://tinyurl.com/5bu25h
is a husky looking ND product and I can't see a fan
so it might be an attractive alternative to the
device you have installed at the moment. They talk
about "custom" reman . . . they might be willing
to supply you an alternator with the regulator
already by-passed.
Bob . . .
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nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: Alternator part number? |
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At 05:27 PM 8/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
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<nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net>
At 03:04 PM 8/8/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>On the way back from Oshkosh to Florida my alternator died (lasted 2
>years). Switched off the main bus and ran the E bus all the way home
>(thanks Bob N.). It was a 35 amp externally regulated part
>#14184. Anyone out there know what the part number is for the same type
>of alternator except in 55 amp unit externally regulated?
I'm wondering if that was originally an externally regulated
unit. There's a lot of not terribly favorable traffic that
comes up on a Google search about that part number as a Van's
supplied alternator. There's a 'stock', probably internally
regulated version offered on Ebay right now:
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Followup: Another member on the List has turned me on to
the following website:
http://www.motorcarparts.com/catalog.htm
This link takes you to a YMME selection form that
may not be of much use in researching alternators.
However, stick anything in, like 2000 Honda Accord
with 2.3L engine. Then click on "alternator" for that
car.
This takes you to a cool screen that offers specs and
a 3-view for the alternator. Moreover, there's a box
on this page for inserting another part number.
Pun in your 14184 number and we get an
35A EXTERNALLY regulated ND alternator with three photographic
views.
Now we know a lot more about the alternator that started
this thread. We also know about an information resource
that many of you will find valuable in identifying
and perhaps integrating certain kinds of alternators
into your projects.
This website also offers a technical bulletin against
that alternator which speaks to the need to retain
the b-lead filter capacitor from your old alternator
when replacing it with a new one. It also identifies
the functionality the rear mounted receptacle.
Pretty cool stuff.
Bob . . .
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nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Alternator part number? |
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Followup to the followup. I may have an opportunity
to examine failure analysis data for various automotive
alternators that would give us some insight as to
the smoothest way to integrate these devices into
OBAM aircraft.
Does anyone has a part number to share taken from
a label on their current installed alternator
or perhaps off a carton or invoice for having purchased
the alternator? I'd like to know what it is and perhaps
a little background on how you selected and acquired
the alternator.
We can plug the numbers into the big data-base-in-the-
sky and see what spits out. It may be significant,
it may not . . . but interesting in any case.
Bob . . .
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klehman(at)albedo.net
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: Alternator part number? |
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ND 100211-1680 which crosses to 612270 on the site.
An industrial 40 amp unit that is small, light, and relatively modern.
It was largely chosen for its low 40 amp output in case it ever ran away
and to allow loading it down if the voltage was high. Then I found out
about OVP protection. However all my lights and pitot heat can indeed
load it higher than 40 amps which I like. I think it was around $150
new. 212 hours on it so far and rock steady at 14.3 volts. Unlike some
newer units, it will draw field current anytime the IGN lead is powered,
even if the alternator is not rotating.
Ken
Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
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<nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net>
> Followup: Another member on the List has turned me on to
> the following website:
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> http://www.motorcarparts.com/catalog.htm
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<snip>
Followup to the followup. I may have an opportunity
to examine failure analysis data for various automotive
alternators that would give us some insight as to
the smoothest way to integrate these devices into
OBAM aircraft.
Does anyone has a part number to share taken from
a label on their current installed alternator
or perhaps off a carton or invoice for having purchased
the alternator? I'd like to know what it is and perhaps
a little background on how you selected and acquired
the alternator.
We can plug the numbers into the big data-base-in-the-
sky and see what spits out. It may be significant,
it may not . . . but interesting in any case.
Bob . . .
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