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Ken Potter

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 85
Location: Lanark, Ontario

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

Hi Folks;



Just completed my turtle deck today but have not yet installed the hinge. Question; is the hinge needed????????  After fabricating the turtledeck  windows to be watertight it appears that the hinge will be a sieve. Are there any fit-up issues which require the hinge or can I join the two sided together with a solid (and waterproof) joint.



Cheers and thanks in advance for your advice



Ken Potter

Kitfox II, No. 483

Rotax 583, C Box

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

Ken,



The reason for the hinge is so when trailering, the turtle deck will fit 

inside the cockpit on the seat.  I don't think there is any other reason.

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mscotter

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Winston-Salem, NC

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

Pulling in now. 

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Mark Scott
Winston-Salem, NC

thesupe(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

On the Avids C the two halves overlap and use 3 or 4 camlocks to hold them togeather.  Not sure if that is more watertite or not C also C I'm not sure if Kitfox gives you enough material for an overlap but maybe.  Jim Chuk  Kitfox 4 building C  Avid MK IV flying C  MN> From: lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com> Subject: Re: Turtle Deck Hinge> Date: Wed C 6 Aug 2008 16:26:20 -0700> >

henrysfork1(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Ken after looking at other turtle decks I decided the same thing. I  installed a one piece aluminum turtle deck w/o windows and screwed it down  tight.

  

 Dee Young

 Model II

 N345DY

  

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

Mine...with a LP Aeroplastics domed window installed....just barely  

fits inside the cabin, but I have to pad the corners to prevent  

scratching the side windows. But it WILL fit without folding the hinge.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster

Jabiru 2200

Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try."  (Pink  

Floyd..."Learning to Fly")



On Aug 6, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:



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 <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net>



 Ken,



 The reason for the hinge is so when trailering, the turtle deck  

 will fit inside the cockpit on the seat.  I don't think there is  

 any other reason.

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Ken Potter

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 85
Location: Lanark, Ontario

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Turtle Deck Hinge

Thanks for the advice everyone.  As I will be towing with my truck there is no issue about space for the turtle deck so I have decided to join the two halves together in a solid joint.



Cheers



Ken

msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

Hi Ken.

  

 IMHO, the short answer to your question is "no." The hinge does make the assembly smaller and thus easier to stow away but that's not really an issue unless you're constantly trailering as I am. Even that convenience is often outweighted by the added difficulty the hinge imposes during one-man installation, removal of the t-deck, especially in a wind.

  

 Overall, if I were building one today for my model 2, I'd make it one-piece with a single large window.

  

 Marco Menezes N99KX

 Model 2 582-90 C-Box

 



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		  From: Ken Potter <kjpotter(at)sympatico.ca>

Subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:10 PM



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<kjpotter(at)sympatico.ca>



Hi Folks;



Just completed my turtle deck today but have not yet installed the hinge.

Question; is the hinge needed????????  After fabricating the turtledeck  windows

to be watertight it appears that the hinge will be a sieve. Are there any fit-up

issues which require the hinge or can I join the two sided together with a solid

(and waterproof) joint.



Cheers and thanks in advance for your advice



Ken Potter

Kitfox II, No. 483

Rotax 583, C Box





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Ken Potter

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 85
Location: Lanark, Ontario

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Turtle Deck Hinge

Hi Marco;



The common advice seems to be that ithe hinge is not needed unless you want to stow it in a small area.  I'll be trailering C-FJKP a little bit, but it will be with my pickup truck so space is not an issue. 



I've already fabricated the two sides so will go with them on a watertight centre joint.  A full width  window turtle-deck does interest me though. Given that it took less than 4 hours to assemble the factory design, I may modify the turtledeck once I've finished and test flown.



Cheers



Ken

Kitfox II,  No. 483

Rotax 582 C Box

98 % finished and 98% to go  (yes, the list of little things to do just keeps growing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

thesupe(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Turtle Deck Hinge

I think some guys have made a one piece turtle deck out of a piece of .060 Lexan.  You can bend it in a brake and it will stay bent.  I've thought about doing that myself C but haven't done it yet.  Jim Chuk  Kitfox 4 building C  Avid MK IV and (tonight) Avid B flying C  Mn

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 From: kjpotter(at)sympatico.ca

 Date: Thu C 7 Aug 2008 17:25:39 -0700

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter(at)sympatico.ca>

 Hi Marco;

 The common advice seems to be that ithe hinge is not needed unless you want to stow it in a small area. I'll be trailering C-FJKP a little bit C but it will be with my pickup truck so space is not an issue. 

 I've already fabricated the two sides so will go with them on a watertight centre joint. A full width window turtle-deck does interest me though. Given that it took less than 4 hours to assemble the factory design C I may modify the turtledeck once I've finished and test flown.

 Cheers

 Ken

 Kitfox II C No. 483

 Rotax 582 C Box

 98 % finished and 98% to go (yes C the list of little things to do just keeps growing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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