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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: new products

Yes, I will look forward to Alex's feedback on how well the P-Mag works.  I have been talking to the P-mag guys now for 3 years on getting the 6-cyl version going.  Their design, from what I have seen, is very simple both from an installation and a timing aspect, which makes it very attractive to the amateur-built market.  Also, the lack of dependence on the aircraft electrical system puts it well above the other offering(s) in my mind.



I have been talking with Brent Maule about their new plane with the SMA for over a year now.  They really like the engine so far.  They say the economy is great and that it is very smooth considering it is a diesel.

Would anybody like to comment on their thoughts about Dynon's new offering?  Way too soon to be displaying a product slated for sometime in 2009?  Maybe just following suit with the other major players in the experimental EFIS market?  Personally, I can't wait to see the final product and the Dynon-ish price tag and simplicity.  We'll see.

Rob's prop looked great, although I really see the need to get true comparison numbers.  Rob, is it a 12" spinner?  How about finding someone who would be interested in loaning you their metal prop for a day of testing?  We have yet to get that test done with any of the different prop offerings.  Do we have any idea what the cost will be.

While not a new offering, I know there are a number of people still waiting to hear numbers on the Barrett Cold Air Induction system.  Is Gary still the only one flying with that?  He said he was going to be getting together with Tim to compare numbers.  May I propose that we get you to do a max MP comparison at 10-14-18,000 feet?  With the standard IO-540 max MP is just over 15 at 17,500, so another inch or two would go a long way and possibly even increase fuel economy as IAS is below what we consider to be best glide, so a little boost in MP would possibly get the best economy at those altitudes.

Numbers on the James cowl would be nice to get when one is flying.  I don't ever remember hearing numbers on the one flying in Canada.

Is there any more information on the turbo-charged -10 down in Australia?  I remember that being mentioned once on the forum a year or two ago, but then it dropped off the map.



 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



 



On Aug 4, 2008, at 11:26 PM, David McNeill wrote:

[quote]Apparently the new PMAG for the IO540 is going to be tested  on an RV10 starting directly after Oshkosh 2008.





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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: new products

I did not make it out to OSH but kept track of all the announcement virtually.



After waiting for Garmin to come out with a touch screen portable GPS, Bendix/King beat them to the punch.

https://www.bendixking.com/AV8OR/



Not sure if this was a OSH but it seems someone has already developed a manual spring bias rudder trim for RV's.

http://www.mlskunkworks.embarqspace.com/#/ruddertrim/4528455343



Then there is the Lycoming FADEC TEO-540 that no one seems to have a picture of.



Lycoming is certifying the IO-390 and seeking an STC first for the Cardinal 177 RG.  Maybe Vans will develop a IO-390 Firewall Forward kit for the RV-10, but I doubt it.



William

http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ 



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elhershb(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: new products

Hi All,

        Just for a few talking points. I just received my engine from Barrett. This is a Lycoming IO-540-X engine with Barrett Cold Air Induction, Airflow Performance Injection, John Forsling Headers, Slick Mags and every thing else stock. It dyno'ed out at 280 HP (at) 2700 RPM. How it will do in the plane once built is anyones guess? 

          Pmag told me they are close to going into production. Their quote was they had two more parts to produce before they start assembly. As far as the running version I took it that was to tweak the software. These will go on my engine when they become available.

  

        Ed Hershberger

        SB Fuselage

        N410EP (Reserved)  

  

 [quote]-------------- Original message -------------- 

From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> 

Yes, I will look forward to Alex's feedback on how well the P-Mag works.  I have been talking to the P-mag guys now for 3 years on getting the 6-cyl version going.  Their design, from what I have seen, is very simple both from an installation and a timing aspect, which makes it very attractive to the amateur-built market.  Also, the lack of dependence on the aircraft electrical system puts it well above the other offering(s) in my mind.  



 I have been talking with Brent Maule about their new plane with the SMA for over a year now.  They really like the engine so far.  They say the economy is great and that it is very smooth considering it is a diesel.

 



 Would anybody like to comment on their thoughts about Dynon's new offering?  Way too soon to be displaying a product slated for sometime in 2009?  Maybe just following suit with the other major players in the experimental EFIS market?  Personally, I can't wait to see the final product and the Dynon-ish price tag and simplicity.  We'll see.

 



 Rob's prop looked great, although I really see the need to get true comparison numbers.  Rob, is it a 12" spinner?  How about finding someone who would be interested in loaning you their metal prop for a day of testing?  We have yet to get that test done with any of the different prop offerings.  Do we have any idea what the cost will be.

 



 While not a new offering, I know there are a number of people still waiting to hear numbers on the Barrett Cold Air Induction system.  Is Gary still the only one flying with that?  He said he was going to be getting together with Tim to compare numbers.  May I propose that we get you to do a max MP comparison at 10-14-18,000 feet?  With the standard IO-540 max MP is just over 15 at 17,500, so another inch or two would go a long way and possibly even increase fuel economy as IAS is below what we consider to be best glide, so a little boost in MP would possibly get the best economy at those altitudes.

 



 Numbers on the James cowl would be nice to get when one is flying.  I don't ever remember hearing numbers on the one flying in Canada.

 



 Is there any more information on the turbo-charged -10 down in Australia?  I remember that being mentioned once on the forum a year or two ago, but then it dropped off the map.

 

   Jesse Saint

 Saint Aviation, Inc.

 jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

 Cell: 352-427-0285

 Fax: 815-377-3694



  On Aug 4, 2008, at 11:26 PM, David McNeill wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		    Apparently the new PMAG for the IO540 is going to be tested  on an RV10 starting directly after Oshkosh 2008.



 



	
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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: new products

I have been trying to download the rudder trim drawing from the M.L. Skunkworks site, but it has exceeded it's daily download limit. Does anybody have a copy of it in word document or pdf they could send to me?

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RV-10 #40559
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Lenny Iszak

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: Re: new products

David,



Here's the drawing. See attachment.



Lenny

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: new products

So has anyone installed this.... looks like it would work just fine.    Thanks

 Don McDonald   

 #40636   Finishing the finishing



--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Lenny Iszak <lenard(at)rapiddecision.com> wrote:



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		  From: Lenny Iszak <lenard(at)rapiddecision.com>

Subject: Re: new products

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 7:09 AM



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David,



Here's the drawing. See attachment.



Lenny

#40803





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dmaib@me.com

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: new products

Thanks Lenny.



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