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Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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Well during my Part 65 A&P course last week, one of the question was when does a Mag get rebuilt? The answer was during the engine rebuild. I di learn how to take it all apart and change/set the points and set the e-gap (an internal setting) and put it back together and set the timeing.
Fiveonepw(at)aol.com (Fiveonepw(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote] Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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..and (if memory serves) Slick has a Mandatory Service Bulletin that
stipulates 400-Hr rebuild. If one experiences an engine stoppage, and
the overhaul has not been accomplished, I would bet the insurance
company won't pay.
neal
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Well during my Part 65 A&P course last week, one of the question was
when does a Mag get rebuilt? The answer was during the engine rebuild. I
di learn how to take it all apart and change/set the points and set the
e-gap (an internal setting) and put it back together and set the
timeing.
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Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
Fiveonepw(at)aol.com wrote:
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up
and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick
4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW
to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding
checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but
I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
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rickpegser(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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slick mags 500 hr inspection.
at a minimum you should change the points and cam, relube,check the condensor
inspect the distributor and change the brush. inspect the impluse coupling. and rotor bearings.
the problem with a slick is the cost of the parts and the bench check required after tear down makes them basically a throwaway mag. for a certified aircraft at least.
rick
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Subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:10 PM
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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timb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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Rick,
Are you suggesting the mags should be thrown away after 500 hours? It isn’t clear in your message.
Thanks
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD MILLER
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:14 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up
slick mags 500 hr inspection.
at a minimum you should change the points and cam, relube,check the condensor
inspect the distributor and change the brush. inspect the impluse coupling. and rotor bearings.
the problem with a slick is the cost of the parts and the bench check required after tear down makes them basically a throwaway mag. for a certified aircraft at least.
rick
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From: Fiveonepw(at)aol.com <Fiveonepw(at)aol.com>
Subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:10 PM
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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tim
with the replacment cost of 514/577$ repectively
and the overhaul parts only cost of 887/1189$. for overhaul these things are throwaway. now for the five hundred inspection the t100 tooling kit is 432 dollars. the only time you need the full kit is for twin points so say 50$ in special tools
next most people will charge about 200 to 250$ to go through one of these plus what ever parts are required.so lets say you just want to give it tune up points cap condensor and rotor = 415 dollars worth of parts alone so with labor you already 100.00$ over new cost. what most of my customers due is inspect at every hundred/annual and throwaway at 750 or at any signs of damage.
point kit 40.00
condensor 97.00
bearings 126.00
bearing cap 64.00
coil 266
impluse coupling 302.00
rotor gear 8.00
oil seal 8.00
distributor block and gear 278.00
since an impluse coupling failure means a very expensive engine overhaul it is your call about inspect or replace at the five hundred
let me tell you a recent story about a set of slicks on an io-520
at about 420 hr on the mags the owner complained to another shop that he had high egts on climb out. for the next eighty hours they fiddle fart around with the bird including a full fuel system overhaul for the price of 7500.00$ still no luck fixing it. at 510 on the mags the owner experiences a twin mag failure a barely limps it to the field. after both mags are replace the egt problem goes away. eighty hours later the right mags burns up, then started the saga of the sb-03. inspected the new mag after 10 hrs run found out that it was already eating the brush and the left had not been built right from the factory, excessive clearance on the coil tab, replace the left mag. so in 600 hrs we have gone through 4 mags and had three in flight failures. changed the brushes to the aero assy. brush to stop the inspections. and now plan to only open then at every annual. if you fly with slicks and especially if you fly high open them up every annual.
rick a+p, i/a
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Subject: RE: Slick Mag Health Check-up
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Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 6:26 AM
Rick,
Are you suggesting the mags should be thrown away after 500 hours? It isnąt clear in your message.
Thanks
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD MILLER
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:14 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up
slick mags 500 hr inspection.
at a minimum you should change the points and cam, relube,check the condensor
inspect the distributor and change the brush. inspect the impluse coupling. and rotor bearings.
the problem with a slick is the cost of the parts and the bench check required after tear down makes them basically a throwaway mag. for a certified aircraft at least.
rick
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Subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:10 PM
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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At those prices why not throw away the mags, put in Lightspeed electronic units and be done with it?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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Well Mark, looks like you know exactly what to do now! Ha ha ha!
Unbelievable! I do not have a maintenance manual for the slick mags but will try to get one from a buddy soon. I am sure you would still like to know what the manual says is due and when.
Fiveonepw(at)aol.com (Fiveonepw(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote] Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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HERE IS THE MANUAL
RICK
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Well Mark, looks like you know exactly what to do now! Ha ha ha!
Unbelievable! I do not have a maintenance manual for the slick mags but will try to get one from a buddy soon. I am sure you would still like to know what the manual says is due and when.
Fiveonepw(at)aol.com (Fiveonepw(at)aol.com) wrote: | Quote: | Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
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In a message dated 8/27/2008 2:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rickpegser(at)yahoo.com writes:
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Nick-
I'm not asking for horror stories or conjecture- I simply want to know what I NEED to examine when I perform this next annual. The idea that these are "throwaway" components after 500 hours of faithful service with no attention whatsoever kind of speaks to their reliability and in my case at least, debunks your assertion. Offering someone's component pricelist is informative, but I have a difficult time believing that EVERY component you list absolutely needs replacement. This isn't about the FAA being forced to issue an AD because some idiot deliberately pushed his hardware way beyond its limits, but rather what I need to do to ensure that my carefully maintained and respectfully operated machine continues to function as designed.
Please bear in mind that these mags are installed on an experimental aircraft- I do NOT operate under threat of the Almighty AD, but rather the assurance that the aircraft performs as expected by ME, the builder, and holder of the Repairman Certificate for same...
So........
The original query stands: I've got these two little black chunks of magneto I'd just LOVE to thoroughly investigate to make damn sure they will continue to do what they do.
Specifically WHAT should I do?
Mark (thanks to all who have chimed in here!)
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mark
it is rick not nick
the first post i told you what to look for.
i have posted the manual and told you what we do for this inspection. if i have to put it in big letters i will.slick mags are junk. given half a chance they will kill you. ask any mag shop what they think about them. they are plastic pieces of crap and i would not have them on my aircraft. yes i fly slicks only because some of my customers have them. this is not conjecture, this is the truth. slick got a place in the industry with the throwaway mag originally, and stayed there when bendix had the ad problem. if you don't have the money to throw them away, then plan on going thru them. but if you have one problem you will have spent more then a new mag. by the way if the mag impluse coupling comes apart they will not cover any damages. since they did not do the inspection. and the price list was slicks not mine or anybodyelse . the list i included was for all of the items that slick requires to be replaced at overhaul with is not to exceed the tbo of the
engine. From field experience, if you get more then 1000 hr from a slick you are looking for an off field landing. this did not include the recent cam service bulletin or the brush bulletin. they have had problems with the brush for the last four years, so take your chances. it is your bird.
if you fly slick mags cost is about 2.50$ per flight hour, to replace at 500. bendix with original cost adjustment is about the same. let me guess that is probably how slick figure out thier priceing? book it and budget it. and somebody needs to telll me why a coil costs 60% of the cost of a new mag
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Mark
when you ask for advice, and someone with 25 yrs of experiance, offers you it for free, and gives you the manual. i would suggest that you leave the high horse at home. while you have managed to build one airplane from a kit, that means you have built one. while the people out in the real world who do this on a daily basis, might have a little better understanding of what the current problems are. and an understanding of the difficulties involved. they might have even played with the mags on more then one engine. so while you seem to think that you know everything about your engine you still are asking others, how to fix it. i find this to be strange since if you knew how to fix the problem why are you asking us?
my suggestion is that you go to your local autozone, and ask them how to fix a slick mag, since i am sure that they have the training that you are looking for. since the local autozone types only know to grab thier ass with both hands when they have no idea how to fix the problem. you should get the answer that you are looking for. bend over and pray. and with a good bolt of lightening in the right area the answer might come to you.
rick
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Can you tell me where the manual is posted?
RICHARD MILLER wrote: [quote] mark
it is rick not nick
the first post i told you what to look for.
i have posted the manual and told you what we do for this inspection. if i have to put it in big letters i will.slick mags are junk. given half a chance they will kill you. ask any mag shop what they think about them. they are plastic pieces of crap and i would not have them on my aircraft. yes i fly slicks only because some of my customers have them. this is not conjecture, this is the truth. slick got a place in the industry with the throwaway mag originally, and stayed there when bendix had the ad problem. if you don't have the money to throw them away, then plan on going thru them. but if you have one problem you will have spent more then a new mag. by the way if the mag impluse coupling comes apart they will not cover any damages. since they did not do the inspection. and the price list was slicks not mine or anybodyelse . the list i included was for all of the items that slick requires to be replaced at overhaul with is not to exceed the tbo of the engine. From field experience, if you get more then 1000 hr from a slick you are looking for an off field landing. this did not include the recent cam service bulletin or the brush bulletin. they have had problems with the brush for the last four years, so take your chances. it is your bird.
if you fly slick mags cost is about 2.50$ per flight hour, to replace at 500. bendix with original cost adjustment is about the same. let me guess that is probably how slick figure out thier priceing? book it and budget it. and somebody needs to telll me why a coil costs 60% of the cost of a new mag.
rick
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Fiveonepw(at)aol.com (Fiveonepw(at)aol.com) <Fiveonepw(at)aol.com> (Fiveonepw(at)aol.com) wrote:
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Subject: Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:12 PM
In a message dated 8/27/2008 2:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rickpegser(at)yahoo.com (rickpegser(at)yahoo.com) writes:
| Quote: | | with the replacment cost of 514/577$ repectively |
Nick-
I'm not asking for horror stories or conjecture- I simply want to know what I NEED to examine when I perform this next annual. The idea that these are "throwaway" components after 500 hours of faithful service with no attention whatsoever kind of speaks to their reliability and in my case at least, debunks your assertion. Offering someone's component pricelist is informative, but I have a difficult time believing that EVERY component you list absolutely needs replacement. This isn't about the FAA being forced to issue an AD because some idiot deliberately pushed his hardware way beyond its limits, but rather what I need to do to ensure that my carefully maintained and respectfully operated machine continues to function as designed.
Please bear in mind that these mags are installed on an experimental aircraft- I do NOT operate under threat of the Almighty AD, but rather the assurance that the aircraft performs as expected by ME, the builder, and holder of the Repairman Certificate for same...
So........
The original query stands: I've got these two little black chunks of magneto I'd just LOVE to thoroughly investigate to make damn sure they will continue to do what they do.
Specifically WHAT should I do?
Mark (thanks to all who have chimed in here!)
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i have posted the manual and told you what we do for this inspection.
if i have to put it in big letters i will.slick mags are junk. given
half a chance they will kill you. ask any mag shop what they think
about them. they are plastic pieces of crap and i would not have them
on my aircraft.
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Rick,
I appreciate you posting the Slick magneto manual, that is a very useful
resource.
However, you have repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly, stated your disgust
with Slick magnetos. In my opinion, your statement above completed the
process of destroying any credibility you have with me, and I'm
confident, with many other RVers. To state that Slick mags will "kill
you" shows a lack of grounding in reality.
I have no idea why you feel so strongly about this matter, but it is
obvious your strong feelings have clouded any objectivity you may have
about the mag issue. I had a long professional relationship with an A&P
whom I deeply respected, and we discussed the longevity of the Slick
mags on my *experimental* plane at the time we freshened them. We were
able to replace points, cam, condenser, and bearings for about $250 per mag.
The opinion of the A&Ps I've discussed Slick mags with is that yes, they
do have a finite life span, and more than likely it is best to replace
them if they cause problems after several hundred hours of service. But
I have never heard a pro express the vitriol toward Slick mags that you
continue to spew on this list.
I respect your right to express your opinion, but personally, I put no
stock in what you have expressed.
Sam Buchanan
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Are you not aware of the current problem with Slick mags, that some are
failing on FIRST flight? Rick is right on this one at the moment. 20
years ago I put slick mags on the plane I had and they were fine. The
last 10 years and 700 hours I have flown behind Bendix mags. Huge
difference in reliability, lack of need for service, etc. I know of
several RV-10s that have had both Slick mags fail within minutes of each
other. Are you willing to play Russian roulette with your plane while
Slick tries to come up with a fix. This has been known for a couple
months, and they still, AFAIK do not have a solution.
When it comes time to buy an engine for my RV-10, it WILL be equipped
with a Bendix mag or P mags, definitely not Slicks.
KM
A&P/IA
EAA Tech Counselor
Sam Buchanan wrote:
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Rick,
I appreciate you posting the Slick magneto manual, that is a very
useful resource.
However, you have repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly, stated your
disgust with Slick magnetos. In my opinion, your statement above
completed the process of destroying any credibility you have with me,
and I'm confident, with many other RVers. To state that Slick mags
will "kill you" shows a lack of grounding in reality.
I have no idea why you feel so strongly about this matter, but it is
obvious your strong feelings have clouded any objectivity you may have
about the mag issue. I had a long professional relationship with an
A&P whom I deeply respected, and we discussed the longevity of the
Slick mags on my *experimental* plane at the time we freshened them.
We were able to replace points, cam, condenser, and bearings for about
$250 per mag.
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A friend of mine had a mag business and called it quits because he was honest and recommended buying new ones.
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The problem is if the person peforming your check doesn't have a tester where he can turn the mag and check the spark, he is not in compliance with the check and he is betting your life on his work.
Mike
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They call them "Slick" for a reason 
Scott
Eisemann, baby, EISEMANN 
Kelly McMullen wrote:
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Are you not aware of the current problem with Slick mags, that some
are failing on FIRST flight? Rick is right on this one at the moment.
20 years ago I put slick mags on the plane I had and they were fine.
The last 10 years and 700 hours I have flown behind Bendix mags. Huge
difference in reliability, lack of need for service, etc. I know of
several RV-10s that have had both Slick mags fail within minutes of
each other. Are you willing to play Russian roulette with your plane
while Slick tries to come up with a fix. This has been known for a
couple months, and they still, AFAIK do not have a solution.
When it comes time to buy an engine for my RV-10, it WILL be equipped
with a Bendix mag or P mags, definitely not Slicks.
KM
A&P/IA
EAA Tech Counselor
Sam Buchanan wrote:
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> Rick,
>
> I appreciate you posting the Slick magneto manual, that is a very
> useful resource.
>
> However, you have repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly, stated your
> disgust with Slick magnetos. In my opinion, your statement above
> completed the process of destroying any credibility you have with me,
> and I'm confident, with many other RVers. To state that Slick mags
> will "kill you" shows a lack of grounding in reality.
>
> I have no idea why you feel so strongly about this matter, but it is
> obvious your strong feelings have clouded any objectivity you may
> have about the mag issue. I had a long professional relationship with
> an A&P whom I deeply respected, and we discussed the longevity of the
> Slick mags on my *experimental* plane at the time we freshened them.
> We were able to replace points, cam, condenser, and bearings for
> about $250 per mag.
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Mark Phillips in TN
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Got it Rick, thanks! Digestion in progress...
Mark do not archive
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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