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timb
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Location: Frankston, Texas
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 Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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Hi Listers,
I have noticed a few hints of this on the list over the last year but never
really knew (or obviously paid attention) to the reasons. A few days ago I
received a post card from the NOAA informing me the Satellite Coverage for
121.5 MHz ELT's will end on February 1, 2009. It further indicates in order
to receive Satellite coverage I would need to be operating on 406 MHz.
Does this mean there will be a mandatory change of ELT device in order to
maintain my AW? I realize it would be near useless to continue with the one
I got if I don't change it. The question is more about what the
requirements are going to be. I also noticed just a week or two ago where
someone was purchasing a new unit at something like $895. This is about
twice what I remember paying for my current ELT that works perfectly. What
are others doing here?
I really hate this! That is my fuel budget for several months.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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"Satellite" coverage ends. Not all monitoring of 121.5 MHz
406 MHz ELT not now required in USA. Check AOPA or VAF
for recent discussions.
Spend that money on fuel for now.
Ron Lee
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robertrv607(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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Tim: I am with you as to the expense, but yes, AOPA has told us
for the past year, the change and explain all the details...
What we do we the old unit...I wish some one could use them,
The reality is we have to get the new unit, otherwise we will not
have any communication incase of accident etc... I better star
saving for the $800 or so...
Bert
rv6a
--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Tim Bryan <n616tb(at)btsapps.com> wrote:
| Quote: | From: Tim Bryan <n616tb(at)btsapps.com>
Subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 10:16 AM
<n616tb(at)btsapps.com>
Hi Listers,
I have noticed a few hints of this on the list over the
last year but never
really knew (or obviously paid attention) to the reasons.
A few days ago I
received a post card from the NOAA informing me the
Satellite Coverage for
121.5 MHz ELT's will end on February 1, 2009. It
further indicates in order
to receive Satellite coverage I would need to be operating
on 406 MHz.
Does this mean there will be a mandatory change of ELT
device in order to
maintain my AW? I realize it would be near useless to
continue with the one
I got if I don't change it. The question is more about
what the
requirements are going to be. I also noticed just a week
or two ago where
someone was purchasing a new unit at something like $895.
This is about
twice what I remember paying for my current ELT that works
perfectly. What
are others doing here?
I really hate this! That is my fuel budget for several
months.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
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Vanremog(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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In a message dated 9/7/2008 7:19:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n616tb(at)btsapps.com writes:
| Quote: | I have noticed a few hints of this on the list over the last year but never
really knew (or obviously paid attention) to the reasons. A few days ago I
received a post card from the NOAA informing me the Satellite Coverage for
121.5 MHz ELT's will end on February 1, 2009. It further indicates in order
to receive Satellite coverage I would need to be operating on 406 MHz.
Does this mean there will be a mandatory change of ELT device in order to
maintain my AW? I realize it would be near useless to continue with the one
I got if I don't change it. The question is more about what the
requirements are going to be. I also noticed just a week or two ago where
someone was purchasing a new unit at something like $895. This is about
twice what I remember paying for my current ELT that works perfectly. What
are others doing here?
I really hate this! That is my fuel budget for several months. |
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I have the older ACK E-01 ELT and their new compliant ELT E-04 that uses the same panel mounted control and will fit in the same tray is going to be out in a few weeks. The retrofit kit is going for MSRP of $560. Maybe ACS will discount it slightly so perhaps it's worth calling them to see once it is released.
I will probably budget mine for Q1CY09. My suspicion is that once their new design and qualification investment is recaptured they will deal on these, but it could be a few years.
N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 900hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley)
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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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bert murillo wrote:
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Tim: I am with you as to the expense, but yes, AOPA has told us
for the past year, the change and explain all the details...
What we do we the old unit...I wish some one could use them,
The reality is we have to get the new unit, otherwise we will not
have any communication incase of accident etc... I better star
saving for the $800 or so...
Bert
rv6a
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There are no regulatory requirements to purchase a new ELT at this time.
Our ELTs are still perfectly legal, we just need to be aware that
satellites will no longer be listening on 121.5. If our ELT is
triggered, responses will be based on either aircraft monitoring 121.5
(nearly all commercial aircraft do so) or monitoring by ground stations.
The satellite-based ELTs are obviously superior to the 121.5 only units,
and each pilot must decide how important it is to have the latest ELT
technology. But the FAA has left that decision to us.
Canadian pilots MUST make the change to the 406 ELT.
Sam Buchanan
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timb
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 77
Location: Frankston, Texas
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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Thanks everyone, I will monitor the prices and keep what I got until I am
more comfortable with the price. One additional question if anyone knows.
I almost always fly with flight following. If for some reason, I dropped
off the scope, would they pin point that spot and call emergency or would
they just say: "oh, must have lost him" and cancel the squak code? I would
hope I at least had time to notify them I was in trouble but you never know.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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Tim Bryan wrote:
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Thanks everyone, I will monitor the prices and keep what I got until I am
more comfortable with the price. One additional question if anyone knows.
I almost always fly with flight following. If for some reason, I dropped
off the scope, would they pin point that spot and call emergency or would
they just say: "oh, must have lost him" and cancel the squak code? I would
hope I at least had time to notify them I was in trouble but you never know.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
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Tim, if you want to learn more about an exciting enhancement to aircraft
tracking, check out the APRS forum on the VansAirforce forum:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104
You can read about the installation of an APRS tracker in my plane:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/tracker.htm
And the August issue of KitPlanes magazine has an article I wrote about
aviation APRS.
Sam Buchanan
http://thervjournal.com
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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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| Quote: | The reality is we have to get the new unit, otherwise we will not
have any communication incase of accident etc... I better star
saving for the $800 or so...
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WRONG!!!!!!!!!
I have no intent to get a 406 MHz ELT at this time. I have an unreliable
121.5 MHz ELT.
I have a 406 MHz PLB (GPS enabled)
I intend to get an APRS system.
The later two offer better "services" that the 121.5 MHz ELT in my opinion.
Ron Lee
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Kellym
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: 121.5 MHz ELT termination |
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You only need 406 if you want to fly in Canada or parts of Mexico. Not
required for US at this time.
Tim Bryan wrote:
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I really hate this! That is my fuel budget for several months.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
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