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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Re - Question about fuel flow from only one tank? Reply with quote

Jeff,

If the problem is due to slight differences in vents then why would some be
able to duplicate this with ground tests?

I'll try to attach a page from a 1981 C152 POH. Note that there is a vent
line between the two tanks. This might be hard to do in a CH701 as the
fuselage dips between the wings and I don't think you would want that vent
line to have a dip and fill with fuel. Also note that the exterior vent
line is on the left tank and the left tank has a sealed cap. The right tank
has no exterior vent line but has a vented cap. It also looks like there is
an ON/OFF valve (no LEFT/RIGHT/BOTH/OFF).

I've never flown a C152. Does anyone know if the C152 has this problem?

Curt

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Re - Question about fuel flow from only one tank? Reply with quote

Curt
My 152 had the same problem
I didn't have it long enough though to get into the problem.
My CFI told me "... that always happens with this airplane.."
I bought it from the FBO. It was a trainer that they were selling.
I had only flown it a few times in training and a few times as the
owner.
Had to sell it but I know it was a common problem.
Randall J Hebert
Randall J Hebert & Associates, Inc
Consulting Engineers
Ph 337-261-1976 Fx 337-261-1977

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Re - Question about fuel flow from only one tank? Reply with quote

A 172 has a Left/Both/Right valve
A 152 has On/Off so it always feeds from both
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re - Question about fuel flow from only one tank? Reply with quote

The C-152 can drain one tank first just like we have been discussing here. I experienced this on my Solo cross country. I expected to have 6 gallons of fuel left when I landed, I did not expect it all to be in one wing. I don't know if it would have quit if the low tank had run dry but I was getting a little concerned.

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From: Curt Thompson <Curt.Thompson(at)verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Re - Question about fuel flow from only one tank?
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Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 11:57 AM
Jeff,

If the problem is due to slight differences in vents then
why would some be
able to duplicate this with ground tests?

I'll try to attach a page from a 1981 C152 POH. Note
that there is a vent
line between the two tanks. This might be hard to do in a
CH701 as the
fuselage dips between the wings and I don't think you
would want that vent
line to have a dip and fill with fuel. Also note that the
exterior vent
line is on the left tank and the left tank has a sealed
cap. The right tank
has no exterior vent line but has a vented cap. It also
looks like there is
an ON/OFF valve (no LEFT/RIGHT/BOTH/OFF).

I've never flown a C152. Does anyone know if the C152
has this problem?

Curt


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Re - Question about fuel flow from only one tank? Reply with quote

The C150 vent has a very specific location and orientation to work correctly. It is also permissible to have vented caps on both tanks.

I normally switch fuel depending on what passenger loading is, if solo drain from left side first and use both for landings anytime the tank is less than 1/4. I have had the engine temporarily shutdown when flying on a 1/4 or less tank if the nose is down or flying unbalanced rudder.
Only incident I had with uneven fuel in the 701 was when after flying 3/4 hr from full tanks, I noted the left gauge reading 1/4 and the right gauge reading full. Had a moment to think about this, if i had a fuel leak in the left then thats the one to switch to before all that fuel is gone. however, from what i could see of the trailing edges of the ailerons, there seemed to be droplets of something on the right wing. I switched to feeding off the right side, upon landing found a rather large hole where the filler cap should be. Seems that starting flight with full tanks can start a suction that continues to siphon all the fuel across from the good tank to keep the other one full. I have now chained the caps so I cannot leave them sitting on the slat gap. Also dont let others around to chat while refueling. Yes I got the cap back, glad the vent was painted yellow so I could see it waiting for me back at the threshold on the grass runway!

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