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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: Passenger carrying flights for compensation at airshows - a |
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Than in a sence they (feds) have beat you. Of course not all feds are this way. I am not being Pollyanna but its not all that bad at there. There some FSDOs who have jerks in them or jerks who run them. With the bombers, we seem to always have someone in SC who keeps trying to make some kind of point, to which we simply point them to the FSDO who "controls" us. That FSDO backs us 100%
The most "refreshing" fed I ever met at a airshow, at the briefing simply got up and asked 'Is everyone here that is getting fuel, have a commercial ticket and a current 2nd class medical? - - - - OK, I assume you do. I don't need to see your stuff. BUT, if something happens, I'll hang your asses so far up on the pole - - - - -". That was good enough for me because it showed a level of trust on their part.
The airshow flying is fun to me. I love it. I keep meeting new people all the time. I love the adoration of the women and kids. I am a ham pure and simple. At my age what's left! Even the best laid plans thought during the briefings sometimes don't work, BUT you adjust. You get to know the different airbosses, how they run things and what they will & will not do. You build a trust amongst them. They get to know you by name and what they can trust your group with. You all end up making a show. That show is 99.999% of the time a positive thing for aviation.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: Passenger carrying flights for compensation at airshows - a |
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Pappy,
In a sense they have. That and encountering clueless pilots trying to land at the air show. Pad locked on entering downwind hearing or ignoring position calls from myself already in the pattern. And yes, you are a ham. :>))
But saying my comment about avoiding air shows was tongue in cheek. It was also made based a personal experience and on the experience a friend had after having a 3 year old break away from his bozo dad and run straight for his prop. I decided I did not need that kind of liability at some of these local air shows. He killed his engine before the kid got to his plane but what if he had not seen that child running across the static ramp? I have had spectators walk near the nose of my Aircraft with a marshaler standing out in front as I was taxing to leave the show after sitting static. Who is going to be responsible for that law suit if one of those spectators got hurt by my aircraft? Part of that was my fault for having a career that required me to be back in the office on Monday morning.
The times I have done static in the guard or on active duty for that matter, we did not depart until the morning after the show. The ramp was empty except for our support folks. So never had that experience with the squadron jets. Only when I took my personal bird did it happen.
My friend, I do this for fun. I’ve had plenty of adoration from the crowds in my life to fill that square and pay for a number of T shirts. I’m just happy boring holes in the sky entertaining myself filling my weekly” air under my ass” square.
Doc
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Subject: Re: Re: Passenger carrying flights for compensation at airshows - an
Than in a sence they (feds) have beat you. Of course not all feds are this way. I am not being Pollyanna but its not all that bad at there. There some FSDOs who have jerks in them or jerks who run them. With the bombers, we seem to always have someone in SC who keeps trying to make some kind of point, to which we simply point them to the FSDO who "controls" us. That FSDO backs us 100%
The most "refreshing" fed I ever met at a airshow, at the briefing simply got up and asked 'Is everyone here that is getting fuel, have a commercial ticket and a current 2nd class medical? - - - - OK, I assume you do. I don't need to see your stuff. BUT, if something happens, I'll hang your asses so far up on the pole - - - - -". That was good enough for me because it showed a level of trust on their part.
The airshow flying is fun to me. I love it. I keep meeting new people all the time. I love the adoration of the women and kids. I am a ham pure and simple. At my age what's left! Even the best laid plans thought during the briefings sometimes don't work, BUT you adjust. You get to know the different airbosses, how they run things and what they will & will not do. You build a trust amongst them. They get to know you by name and what they can trust your group with. You all end up making a show. That show is 99.999% of the time a positive thing for aviation.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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