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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

I like it when the placard reads "does not meet the standards" and they add in "It exceeds them" I think I saw that on Sam Bucahannan's RV..

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BPA(at)bpaengines.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

Maybe I shouldn't comment due to ignorance, this ain't my hunt, but it

seems to me that experienced aviation people already know that a

particular aircraft is EXP so the location of the placard really is not

THAT relevant. And, people who have not been exposed climb into an

airplane and are immediately in awe of all the gadgets, screens, gauges

and buttons on the panel. Seems to me the appropriate place is right

under their noses. I know that when I climb into an unfamiliar aircraft

(one I haven't been in before), I'm looking over the panel to see where

everything is located. With the placard on the panel I have NEVER not

seen it.



Allen B.  



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drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte

So I shouldn't fess up to who I had help me build this flying machine???



By the way, another timely post.  Made up some decals today and will get 

'em on the door tonight.   Upside down.  Will have to get the cows out 

of the way first.  We are in Texas.  Everyone has their own cows.  



Dr Fred.  

Don McDonald wrote:

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		   As a complete newcomer to aviation prior to ordering the RV10 in 

 11-06, I always kind of thought there should be a 3rd category.  

 Certified, Experimental, and Non-certified.  It's not like the 10 is 

 built by a couple of farmers out back of Fred's barn, saying things 

 like "hey, lets try it this time without the tail".  Our 10's are a 

 somewhat proven machine, we merely are able to add, delete, and modify 

 "stuff" that happens to be sometimes, not TSO'd.  Ok, most of the 

 time! As Rick always says "that's my 2 cents.

 Besides, I can't beleive I will ever have someone as a paaenger in my 

 plane who doesn't already know exactly what the situation is.

 Don McDonald

 #40636 Finishing



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     From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

     Subject: Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental"

     required on inte

     To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

     Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:41 AM



     



     Linn,



     I agree, the wording isn't vague at all:



     "the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to 

     the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station,"



     The baggage bulkhead isn't "near each entrance" unless perhaps

     you're trying to conform for the baggage door entrance.



     It's not a big pissing match, but I think that anything but

     near the door neither meets the law technically, nor the

     laws intent.  If you can get away with it, or away with it

     for a while, so be it.



     I'm always amazed that people want to HIDE some of these things.

     I mean, you're PROUD that you built the plane.  Having that

     word there not only ensures people know what they're getting

     into when they board, but gives great awareness to people

     who see it and they may just get interested in exactly what

     makes your plane unique.



     Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying



     linn Walters wrote:

     > 

     <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>

     > 

     > David McNeill wrote:

     >> 

     <dlm46007(at)cox.net>

     >>

     >> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.   

     > Actually, the answer is below .....

     > 

     > "They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into

     the 

     > aircraft."

     > In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering

     the 

     > aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up.  When the NTSB looked at my

     Pitts 

     > (don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was

     on the 

     > engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind 

     > the pilots head.  There was discussion about it, but they accepted it.  

     > Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I 

     > think it skirts the intent.  When you (the collective 'you') do

     things 

     > like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined (the position

     of 

     > the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.

     > 

     > Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside

     down' so it can be 

     > read getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where 

     > mine will go, thanks to Greg.

     > Linn





               

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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Standards for word

 	  ricksked(at)embarqmail.co wrote: 	
		  I like it when the placard reads "does not meet the standards" and they add in "It exceeds them" I think I saw that on Sam Bucahannan's RV..

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I think that's kind of silly. No matter how well it's built and maintained, none of our exp aircraft meet the standards imposed on certified aircraft. It's something you should be proud of, not try to hide. After all, isn't that why you built it? Honestly, if experimentals had to meet all the certification, maintenance, and equipment standards, there would be no such thing as an RV-x, or any other experimental aircraft.

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