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 Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: The Cessna 162 and the BRS |
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Since I live about 15 miles from where the "Flycatcher" went in last Thursday, I was naturally interested in what happened. At our EAA chapter meeting Saturday night I asked if anyone had any more information than what had been on Avweb. One of the Cessna engineers in the group said the "Bang and sparks" reported in the media was the BRS firing after the aircraft, which was being spun at far aft CG, entered a stabilized flat spin and wouldn't recover. The pilot had to bail out when the BRS streamered. He was unhurt, thank goodness. I wonder how the folks in St. Paul will list that as a "save".
Rick
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: The Cessna 162 and the BRS |
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:31:06 -0500
From: "Richard Girard" <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
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Since I live about 15 miles from where the "Flycatcher" went in last
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Thursday, I was naturally interested in what happened. At our EAA chapter
meeting Saturday night I asked if anyone had any more information than what
had been on Avweb. One of the Cessna engineers in the group said the "Bang
and sparks" reported in the media was the BRS firing after the aircraft,
which was being spun at far aft CG, entered a stabilized flat spin and
wouldn't recover. The pilot had to bail out when the BRS streamered. He was
unhurt, thank goodness. I wonder how the folks in St. Paul will list that
as a "save".
Rick,
It seems that you are expecting a lot from the BRS. It is difficult to
design a BRS to counter the condition of "being spun at far aft CG, entered
a stabilized flat spin." This is a good lesson in that one cannot expect a
BRS to save you from all the crazy things that people can and will do to
aircraft. Maybe they can come up with a BRS wing tip drogue shute to slow the
spin. The other lesson is that this can happen to any aircraft with an aft
CG, including Kolb designs.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: The Cessna 162 and the BRS |
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Jack, The unfortunate think about the web is that there is no emoticon for how far my tongue was into my cheek. :-} On the other hand, there's at least one aircraft on the TC side of the aisle that cannot be sold without a BRS because ANY spin is unrecoverable. Seems they're expecting a lot of that BRS, too. Big tongue excursion again, guys.
Rick
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On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jack B. Hart <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net (jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net (jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net)>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:31:06 -0500
From: "Richard Girard" <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)>
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Since I live about 15 miles from where the "Flycatcher" went in last
Thursday, I was naturally interested in what happened. At our EAA chapter
meeting Saturday night I asked if anyone had any more information than what
had been on Avweb. One of the Cessna engineers in the group said the "Bang
and sparks" reported in the media was the BRS firing after the aircraft,
which was being spun at far aft CG, entered a stabilized flat spin and
wouldn't recover. The pilot had to bail out when the BRS streamered. He was
unhurt, thank goodness. I wonder how the folks in St. Paul will list that
as a "save".
>
Rick,
It seems that you are expecting a lot from the BRS. It is difficult to
design a BRS to counter the condition of "being spun at far aft CG, entered
a stabilized flat spin." This is a good lesson in that one cannot expect a
BRS to save you from all the crazy things that people can and will do to
aircraft. Maybe they can come up with a BRS wing tip drogue shute to slow the
spin. The other lesson is that this can happen to any aircraft with an aft
CG, including Kolb designs.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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