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dhkey(at)msn.com
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 Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: Heavy Xtra :-| |
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Nevermind I'm over it. I won't know how much it weighs till I'm done
building it and that hasn't happened, yet. I'm going to enjoy it anyway so
it doesn't matter. I'll do the math myself when I'm done and that's going to
be it. I'd like to be able to carry 15 gallons of gas and someone who is
220. If I can great if I can't too bad for my friends over 220 not my
problem. I'm over it.
| Quote: | From: WillUribe(at)aol.com
Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Heavy Xtra 
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:23:30 EST
David,
I don't understand what your talking about. All auto makers make changes
to
their models all the time every time. When did you buy your Xtra, did you
buy
a pre owned Xtra? Your heavy, early Xtra should be faster.
As I recall, TNK hired an airplane designer, he made many flight tests on
the classic to design it with rounded edges so as to reduce wind drag and
thereby increase fuel efficiency. I remember seeing pictures in magazines
with
streamers taped all over the classic's wings, fuselage and tail. After
the
redesign of the classic the Xtra was born, there was more steel added to
the
fuselage to make it more aerodynamic and a bigger horizontal stabilizer
was
added. After building a few it was determined that the Xtra would not
make the
ultralight trainer weight so all the extra steel was no longer added, the
bigger horizontal stabilizer was changed back to the classic and I believe
the
flaps were also changed. This is from memory so don't quote me on this.
Regards,
Guillermo Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
In a message dated 3/15/2006 7:07:45 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
dhkey(at)msn.com writes:
I called Kolb and they said the old ones were 80lbs heavier than the new
ones.
It's kinda like buying a 2005 Toyota Camary knowing that it gets 30 miles
to
the gallon and finding out when you got home that the one you bought gets
15% less gas mileage than all the other 2005 Toyota Camarys because you
bought the wrong serial number. It's a surprise and not a good one.
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John Jung
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 108
Location: Surprise, AZ, USA
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Heavy Xtra :-| |
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What Wiil said is what I recall, too. I have always liked the Extra and the original one would be my choice. I have watched John Hauck land his Mark III often enought to appreciate flaps. And most people would opt for dual controls anyway. Why not have the plane as originally designed rather then the redesign for an obsolete rule?
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masonclan(at)sbcglobal.ne
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: Heavy Xtra :-| |
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Nevermind I'm over it. I won't know how much it weighs till I'm done
building it and that hasn't happened, yet. I'm going to enjoy it anyway so
it doesn't matter. I'll do the math myself when I'm done and that's going to
be it. I'd like to be able to carry 15 gallons of gas and someone who is
220. If I can great if I can't too bad for my friends over 220 not my
problem. I'm over it.
> From: WillUribe(at)aol.com
> Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Heavy Xtra
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:23:30 EST
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> David,
> I don't understand what your talking about. All auto makers make changes
> to
> their models all the time every time. When did you buy your Xtra, did you
> buy
> a pre owned Xtra? Your heavy, early Xtra should be faster.
>
> As I recall, TNK hired an airplane designer, he made many flight tests on
> the classic to design it with rounded edges so as to reduce wind drag and
> thereby increase fuel efficiency. I remember seeing pictures in magazines
> with
> streamers taped all over the classic's wings, fuselage and tail. After
> the
> redesign of the classic the Xtra was born, there was more steel added to
> the
> fuselage to make it more aerodynamic and a bigger horizontal stabilizer
> was
> added. After building a few it was determined that the Xtra would not
> make the
> ultralight trainer weight so all the extra steel was no longer added, the
> bigger horizontal stabilizer was changed back to the classic and I believe
> the
> flaps were also changed. This is from memory so don't quote me on this.
>
> Regards,
> Guillermo Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
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>
>
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> In a message dated 3/15/2006 7:07:45 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> dhkey(at)msn.com writes:
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> I called Kolb and they said the old ones were 80lbs heavier than the new
> ones.
>
> It's kinda like buying a 2005 Toyota Camary knowing that it gets 30 miles
> to
> the gallon and finding out when you got home that the one you bought gets
> 15% less gas mileage than all the other 2005 Toyota Camarys because you
> bought the wrong serial number. It's a surprise and not a good one.
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Happy to know that my bathroom scales were right on!
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Robert Mason
M3X with flaps
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