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cyco55(at)COMCAST.NET
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: command push pull cables

Has anyone had experience making or  buying the push pull cables for throttle, prop, shutters  ect?

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dougsappllc(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: command push pull cables

Cy,

 Most of the time the problem is not with the inner cable assembly, the problem is caused by the soft copper shield/tube which the cable assembly runs in.  The shield becomes dented or kinked and each dent or kink adds to the friction placed on the cable, soon it becomes stiff and unusable.  If the dent or kink is within the travel range of the end rods the assembly qiuckly becomes nearly unusable. The outer shield or tube can be easily replaced with std copper tubing of the correct size.  I built one up from scratch for the mini yak and I think I used 7/16 copper tubing.  If you do need the cable assembly it's doable by contacting the McFarlane company.  They can swage the SS rods onto the cable but at that time they did not have the tooling to cut the metric threads on the rod ends. 

   

 Like many jobs getting the part out to work on it is 99% percent of the battle, this one is no different, you will be talking to yourself before you get the control R&R'd, so do it on a day when you have your midget contortionist buddy visiting your hanger.  Or maybe wait until the circus comes to town to recruit some help.

   

 Hope this helps.

  

 Always Yakin,

 Doug 

 

 

 On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Cyrus Kissling <cyco55(at)comcast.net (cyco55(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

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Always Yakin,

Doug Sapp

Phone 509-826-4610

Fax 509-826-3644



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czech6(at)mesanetworks.ne
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: command push pull cables

Is there any reason we receive the same posting 4 or 5 times?  

         

  

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cyrus Kissling

 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:32 AM

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flushjohnson(at)charter.n
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: command push pull cables

I have experienced almost complete lockage of the  throttle and prop controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of  the front cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear,  somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front bent  the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control lock  knob.

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: command push pull cables

Doug,  

You found a  trained 3 foot monkey with 12” fingers? Is he/she for rent? If so, how much?!  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson

 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:23 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

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I have experienced almost complete lockage of the throttle and prop controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of the front cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear, somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front bent the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control lock knob.  

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From: doug sapp (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)   

    

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:19 AM  

    

Subject: Re: command push pull cables  

    

   

        

Cy,  

    

Most of the time the problem is not with the inner cable assembly, the problem is caused by the soft copper shield/tube which the cable assembly runs in.  The shield becomes dented or kinked and each dent or kink adds to the friction placed on the cable, soon it becomes stiff and unusable.  If the dent or kink is within the travel range of the end rods the assembly qiuckly becomes nearly unusable. The outer shield or tube can be easily replaced with std copper tubing of the correct size.  I built one up from scratch for the mini yak and I think I used 7/16 copper tubing.  If you do need the cable assembly it's doable by contacting the McFarlane company.  They can swage the SS rods onto the cable but at that time they did not have the tooling to cut the metric threads on the rod ends.   

    

   

    

Like many jobs getting the part out to work on it is 99% percent of the battle, this one is no different, you will be talking to yourself before you get the control R&R'd, so do it on a day when you have your midget contortionist buddy visiting your hanger.  Or maybe wait until the circus comes to town to recruit some help.  

    

   

    

Hope this helps.  

    

   

    

Always Yakin,  

    

Doug   

  

    



    

    

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 Fax 509-826-3644  

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: command push pull cables

We have a manufacturer of Cablecraft control cables here in Portland.  I

set up Shane Wease of Vintage Aircraft Restoration for those interested

in the 3' monkey removal and replacement system.



 



John Cox - Bozo the Clown



 



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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD

Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:43 AM

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: command push pull cables



 



Doug,



You found a  trained 3 foot monkey with 12" fingers? Is he/she for rent?

If so, how much?!



Doc



 



From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest

Johnson

Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:23 PM

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: command push pull cables



 



I have experienced almost complete lockage of the throttle and prop

controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of the front

cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear,

somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front

bent the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control

lock knob.



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: command push pull cables

John,  

Can you provide more info off line?  

doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox

 Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 9:57 AM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: command push pull cables  

  

  

   

We have a manufacturer of Cablecraft control cables here in Portland.  I set up Shane Wease of Vintage Aircraft Restoration for those interested in the 3' monkey removal and replacement system.  

   

John Cox - Bozo the Clown  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD

 Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:43 AM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: command push pull cables  

  

  

   

Doug,  

You found a  trained 3 foot monkey with 12” fingers? Is he/she for rent? If so, how much?!  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Johnson

 Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:23 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: command push pull cables  

  

  

     

I have experienced almost complete lockage of the throttle and prop controls. Could not find any binding in the tubes forward of the front cockpit controls. The binding was bwtween the front cockpit and rear, somebody had tightened the control lock in the rear and moving the front bent the tubes between the two. My advise is to remove the rear control lock knob.  

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