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 Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one?
I assume one would do the flight review in one's own Kitfox but I've been to a few airports and it is difficult to find a CFI with a taildragger rating, no less one that is willing to hop into an Experimental Light Sport.
I personally could probably get a refresher in some bigger Pipers (I like the Archer<g>) and that qualifies for all "lesser" types, but how about you guys that only fly the Kitfox, or only fly as a Sport Pilot?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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I'm planning on getting my BFR in my Kitfox, with the guy who taught
me to fly in it, unless I have to get the BFR from someone who was
not involved in my training...I'll have to look that rule/law up, I
guess...and that's coming up this month.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs, and counting...all systems are go, and I'm back
to flying.
On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Bob Brennan wrote:
| Quote: | How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do
we need one?
I assume one would do the flight review in one's own Kitfox but
I've been to a few airports and it is difficult to find a CFI with
a taildragger rating, no less one that is willing to hop into an
Experimental Light Sport.
I personally could probably get a refresher in some bigger Pipers
(I like the Archer<g>) and that qualifies for all "lesser" types,
but how about you guys that only fly the Kitfox, or only fly as a
Sport Pilot?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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There are instructors around that will fly with you in a Kitfox. I’m a CFII, and I’d do it if you were anywhere near Wilburton, OK.
John Hart
KF IV NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 5:37 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Biennial Flight Review
How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one?
I assume one would do the flight review in one's own Kitfox but I've been to a few airports and it is difficult to find a CFI with a taildragger rating, no less one that is willing to hop into an Experimental Light Sport.
I personally could probably get a refresher in some bigger Pipers (I like the Archer<g>) and that qualifies for all "lesser" types, but how about you guys that only fly the Kitfox, or only fly as a Sport Pilot?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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Tom Jones
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Biennial Flight Review |
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Does your kitfox have a gyro in the panel? During all the flight reviews I have taken the instructor put the dreaded hood on me. I don't know if that is required, but the airplane needs to have a gyro of some sort for that. The last review I took was in a Stinson with just a turn rate indicator and ball for instrument reference, but that was enough to do the hood work.
I plan to go back to the same instructor for my next review, due next month. He also has a sport cub now. I have just finished my first two years as a tail wheel pilot and want to get some instruction on improving my landings during the review.
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I fly with a sport pilot licence C and I got my last BFI in a Champ. Will probably do my next one in my Avid. Jim Chuk Mn
From: matronics(at)bob.brennan.nameTo: kitfox-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: Biennial Flight ReviewDate: Sun C 5 Oct 2008 18:37:26 -0400
How do Kitfoxers get a BFR C assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one?
I assume one would do the flight review in one's own Kitfox but I've been to a few airports and it is difficult to find a CFI with a taildragger rating C no less one that is willing to hop into an Experimental Light Sport.
I personally could probably get a refresher in some bigger Pipers (I like the Archer<g>) and that qualifies for all "lesser" types C but how about you guys that only fly the Kitfox C or only fly as a Sport Pilot?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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When I was training my instructor had me fly for about fifteen minutes with
a blindfold on... (C172) It was pretty hairy until I remembered about the
old thing of flying by the seat of your pants... literally concentrating on
my Duff I was able to straighten the plane out and realizing the sun was in
the south west part of the sky I was able to maintain a relatively
consistent heading (NW). My altitude did vary by over a thousand feet in
the duration of the flight but I did start at 5000'; and ended up at 4800
ft. The instructor said the lowest I got was above 4000 ft and the highest
was 5500'. Oh yes the idea was to try to completely disorient me...
Didn't work.
Noel
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Guy Buchanan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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At 03:37 PM 10/5/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | | How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one? |
Yes you need one, and you should have no trouble getting any CFI to do it. Remember they're not doing flight training, are not pilot-in-command, and don't need to save your bacon. (I hope.) They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. [quote][b]
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matronics(at)bob.brennan.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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>They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
I do yes, it's been a little over 2 years since my GFT (UK NPPL "General Flight Test") after about 50 hours of training in my Kitfox, which I assume more than counts as my BFR for my PPL here. At that time my instructor said "you fly this plane better than I could", which sounds pretty good but he, like many others, thought the Kitfox "twitchy" and had a lot of trouble handling it.
I've only done about 7 hours in it in the past 2 years (in the past month) due to the year and a half struggle getting it legal, and am not very confident yet. I took it to 4000ft yesterday to do some slow flight and stalls - I need to practice 45 and 60 degree bank turns and power on stalls yet. What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!" 
Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: 05 October 2008 10:06 pm
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Biennial Flight Review
At 03:37 PM 10/5/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | | How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one? |
Yes you need one, and you should have no trouble getting any CFI to do it. Remember they're not doing flight training, are not pilot-in-command, and don't need to save your bacon. (I hope.) They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. [quote]
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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| Quote: | Does your kitfox have a gyro in the panel?
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No, but with an extra hole where my non-functioning Water Temp gauge now is
I've been looking at prices for an Artificial Horizon. More STUFF!
When I did my original PPL I did a lot of "hood work", it was one of my
favorite parts of training, along with spin training (not in the Fox, in a
Tomahawk - which was notorious for killing pilots who couldn't recover from
a spin).
My Kitfox instructor did do some "unusual attitude" training but with closed
eyes rather than a hood since there was nothing to look at on the panel.
Again it was a favorite of mine and instructors would really toss it around
in frustration because I always got it right back.
I did an hour of ground instruction a few weeks ago just because I thought I
needed it, and before I knew I needed a BFR. I will call the CFI and see if
he will take me up in something to sign off a BFR.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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Bob,
Here’s a reference to the regulation of what constitutes or may be substituted for a flight review. Keep in mind that for U.S. pilots, any reference to instructors, military, or check pilots will, in most cases refer to US FAA certificated or US military personnel for individuals operating an aircraft of US registry with a US pilot certificate.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=40760189a03dfea0b501608f33820a45&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.1.2&idno=14#14:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.34
John Hart
KF IV NSI Subaru
Wilburton. ok
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:43 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Biennial Flight Review
| Quote: | They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
I do yes, it's been a little over 2 years since my GFT (UK NPPL "General Flight Test") after about 50 hours of training in my Kitfox, which I assume more than counts as my BFR for my PPL here. At that time my instructor said "you fly this plane better than I could", which sounds pretty good but he, like many others, thought the Kitfox "twitchy" and had a lot of trouble handling it.
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I've only done about 7 hours in it in the past 2 years (in the past month) due to the year and a half struggle getting it legal, and am not very confident yet. I took it to 4000ft yesterday to do some slow flight and stalls - I need to practice 45 and 60 degree bank turns and power on stalls yet. What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!"
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: 05 October 2008 10:06 pm
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Biennial Flight Review
At 03:37 PM 10/5/2008, you wrote:
How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one?
Yes you need one, and you should have no trouble getting any CFI to do it. Remember they're not doing flight training, are not pilot-in-command, and don't need to save your bacon. (I hope.) They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. | Quote: | | href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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I need my BFR this month and alredy have a cfi that will fly in mine or go up in his j3 or champ alot of the older cfi,s fly them alot any way kf 3 582 600+hrs malcolm michigan
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[quote]From: Bob Brennan <matronics(at)bob.brennan.name>
Subject: RE: Biennial Flight Review
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:42 PM
>They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
I do yes, it's been a little over 2 years since my GFT (UK NPPL "General Flight Test") after about 50 hours of training in my Kitfox, which I assume more than counts as my BFR for my PPL here. At that time my instructor said "you fly this plane better than I could", which sounds pretty good but he, like many others, thought the Kitfox "twitchy" and had a lot of trouble handling it.
I've only done about 7 hours in it in the past 2 years (in the past month) due to the year and a half struggle getting it legal, and am not very confident yet. I took it to 4000ft yesterday to do some slow flight and stalls - I need to practice 45 and 60 degree bank turns and power on stalls yet. What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!"
Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: 05 October 2008 10:06 pm
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Biennial Flight Review
At 03:37 PM 10/5/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | | How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one? |
Yes you need one, and you should have no trouble getting any CFI to do it. Remember they're not doing flight training, are not pilot-in-command, and don't need to save your bacon. (I hope.) They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. [quote]href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c[b]
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Good reference John, thank you.
do not archive
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hart
Sent: 06 October 2008 11:10 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Biennial Flight Review
Bob,
Here’s a reference to the regulation of what constitutes or may be substituted for a flight review. Keep in mind that for U.S. pilots, any reference to instructors, military, or check pilots will, in most cases refer to US FAA certificated or US military personnel for individuals operating an aircraft of US registry with a US pilot certificate.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=40760189a03dfea0b501608f33820a45&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.1.2&idno=14#14:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.34
John Hart
KF IV NSI Subaru
Wilburton. ok
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:43 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Biennial Flight Review
| Quote: | They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
I do yes, it's been a little over 2 years since my GFT (UK NPPL "General Flight Test") after about 50 hours of training in my Kitfox, which I assume more than counts as my BFR for my PPL here. At that time my instructor said "you fly this plane better than I could", which sounds pretty good but he, like many others, thought the Kitfox "twitchy" and had a lot of trouble handling it.
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I've only done about 7 hours in it in the past 2 years (in the past month) due to the year and a half struggle getting it legal, and am not very confident yet. I took it to 4000ft yesterday to do some slow flight and stalls - I need to practice 45 and 60 degree bank turns and power on stalls yet. What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!"
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
Sent: 05 October 2008 10:06 pm
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Biennial Flight Review
At 03:37 PM 10/5/2008, you wrote:
How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do we need one?
Yes you need one, and you should have no trouble getting any CFI to do it. Remember they're not doing flight training, are not pilot-in-command, and don't need to save your bacon. (I hope.) They should just be along for a pleasant ride asking you to show your stuff; which you do know, right?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: Biennial Flight Review |
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Lynn, I've received several BFRs in my Kitfox and none of the CFIs had any role in my flight training. As long as it's a legal airplane, I don't think it matters.
Currently I'm in Soldotna AK on Browns Lake until Thurs. It's about 30f, calm, and light snow. I got talked into a plumbing job on a big house here--all expense paid trip. Beautiful country. Tomorrow heading to Homer to visit friends.
Deke
S5
normally NE Michigan
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:28:37 -0400, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
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I'm planning on getting my BFR in my Kitfox, with the guy who taught
me to fly in it, unless I have to get the BFR from someone who was
not involved in my training...I'll have to look that rule/law up, I
guess...and that's coming up this month.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs, and counting...all systems are go, and I'm back
to flying.
On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Bob Brennan wrote:
> How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do
> we need one?
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> I assume one would do the flight review in one's own Kitfox but
> I've been to a few airports and it is difficult to find a CFI with
> a taildragger rating, no less one that is willing to hop into an
> Experimental Light Sport.
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> I personally could probably get a refresher in some bigger Pipers
> (I like the Archer<g>) and that qualifies for all "lesser" types,
> but how about you guys that only fly the Kitfox, or only fly as a
> Sport Pilot?
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> Wrightsville Pa
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Lynn Matteson
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All expenses paid??? Stop it, you're killing me!
Have fun, Deke...
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs, and counting...all systems are NOT go, and I'm
back to flying/testing/"guinea pigging"...damn it!
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 2:45 PM, <fox5flyer(at)idealwifi.net> wrote:
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Lynn, I've received several BFRs in my Kitfox and none of the CFIs
had any role in my flight training. As long as it's a legal
airplane, I don't think it matters.
Currently I'm in Soldotna AK on Browns Lake until Thurs. It's
about 30f, calm, and light snow. I got talked into a plumbing job
on a big house here--all expense paid trip. Beautiful country.
Tomorrow heading to Homer to visit friends.
Deke
S5
normally NE Michigan
do not archive
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:28:37 -0400, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
wrote:
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> I'm planning on getting my BFR in my Kitfox, with the guy who taught
> me to fly in it, unless I have to get the BFR from someone who was
> not involved in my training...I'll have to look that rule/law up, I
> guess...and that's coming up this month.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs, and counting...all systems are go, and I'm back
> to flying.
> On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Bob Brennan wrote:
>
>> How do Kitfoxers get a BFR, assuming you are flying on a PPL? Or do
>> we need one?
>>
>> I assume one would do the flight review in one's own Kitfox but
>> I've been to a few airports and it is difficult to find a CFI with
>> a taildragger rating, no less one that is willing to hop into an
>> Experimental Light Sport.
>>
>> I personally could probably get a refresher in some bigger Pipers
>> (I like the Archer<g>) and that qualifies for all "lesser" types,
>> but how about you guys that only fly the Kitfox, or only fly as a
>> Sport Pilot?
>>
>> Bob Brennan - N717GB
>> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
>> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
>> Wrightsville Pa
>>
>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List _-
>> www.matronics.com/contribution _-
>> ============================================================
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Guy Buchanan
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA
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At 05:42 AM 10/6/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!"
Not at all! You're right to be worried. I doubt any insurance company will insure a "non-current" pilot, and most existing insurance would refuse payment if you were flying outside of your required BFR. Not pretty.
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San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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After you guys convinced me to spent more than $1,100/yr on decent insurance there's no point risking it with an overdue BFR, whether I knew about it or not.
I found a local CFI who will ride with me sometime next week, and I won't even fly to the airport, I will trailer it. He has some taildragger experience but never in a Kitfox, and says he is bored of twin turbos and wants a ride in something different. I promised him different! He said he would research the Kitfox online, looks like we might have a new Kitfoxer join the ranks. Depends on how well the BFR goes I suppose<g>
In the meantime maybe I'll install that fancy-dancy EIS I just ordered 
Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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At 05:42 AM 10/6/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!"
Not at all! You're right to be worried. I doubt any insurance company will insure a "non-current" pilot, and most existing insurance would refuse payment if you were flying outside of your required BFR. Not pretty.
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Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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I can tell you from personal experience that if you are involved in an accident the insurance company will definitely check your logbook and other documents to make sure you are in compliance with all applicable FARs, something that all policies I am familiar with require for coverage to be effective.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Guy Buchanan <bnn(at)nethere.com (bnn(at)nethere.com)> wrote:
[quote] At 05:42 AM 10/6/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | What I realised is that I need *lots* more practise but also realised when I fill in my insurance application with my last BFR date being more than 2 years they might balk if I broke something practising for a BFR, which makes me even more nervous about practicing... Yes I already know the response to this post = "Grow a Pair!"
Not at all! You're right to be worried. I doubt any insurance company will insure a "non-current" pilot, and most existing insurance would refuse payment if you were flying outside of your required BFR. Not pretty.
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San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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