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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Prop pitch Reply with quote

I have a GSC 3-blade ground adjustable prop.
If my memory has not failed me I orginally
set the prop angle at 10 deg at 75 deg of radius.
The static rpm is 6800 which is max rpm.
I think the static should be 6200. When
increasing the pitch to reduce static rpm
how many degrees change is there
for, say, each 100 rpm's?
Thanks for any insight.

Cecil
Md 4 582 1050
C gear box


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Prop pitch Reply with quote

Cecil,
I just did the same thing a few weeks ago. In the end it took 1.5 deg. increase to get the right (6200) rpms.
It is much better that way. Eng. temp are lower and a faster cruise.

Dan Wild
mdl1 532
GSC prop


From: Cecil Stokesberry (stokesc(at)wildblue.net)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:31 AM
To: Kitfox (Kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Prop pitch


I have a GSC 3-blade ground adjustable prop.
If my memory has not failed me I orginally
set the prop angle at 10 deg at 75 deg of radius.
The static rpm is 6800 which is max rpm.
I think the static should be 6200. When
increasing the pitch to reduce static rpm
how many degrees change is there
for, say, each 100 rpm's?
Thanks for any insight.

Cecil
Md 4 582 1050
C gear box


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Prop pitch Reply with quote

Dan - 1.5 degree increase to what final setting?

Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Wild
Sent: 10 October 2008 9:27 am
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Subject: Re: Prop pitch

Cecil,
I just did the same thing a few weeks ago. In the end it took 1.5 deg. increase to get the right (6200) rpms.
It is much better that way. Eng. temp are lower and a faster cruise.

Dan Wild
mdl1 532
GSC prop


From: Cecil Stokesberry (stokesc(at)wildblue.net)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:31 AM
To: Kitfox (Kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Prop pitch


I have a GSC 3-blade ground adjustable prop.
If my memory has not failed me I orginally
set the prop angle at 10 deg at 75 deg of radius.
The static rpm is 6800 which is max rpm.
I think the static should be 6200. When
increasing the pitch to reduce static rpm
how many degrees change is there
for, say, each 100 rpm's?
Thanks for any insight.

Cecil
Md 4 582 1050
C gear box


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Prop pitch Reply with quote

Bob,
I'm actually not sure what the final pitch was or how to figure that exactly. I just used one of those round prop pitch tools with a bubble in the middle. I marked where the current pitch was and then started increasing the pitch. first I went two deg. then ran the engine. It was 5800 or so. then decrease one deg still ran 6500 or so. so I ended up with total 1.5 deg. increase. I have never tried to set a prop. to a certain pitch. I always run the engine, too slow decrease pitch too fast increase pitch and then make sure all blades are exactly the same.

Dan Wild
mdl1 532
GSC prop




From: Bob Brennan (matronics(at)bob.brennan.name)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:39 AM
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Subject: RE: Prop pitch


Dan - 1.5 degree increase to what final setting?

Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Wild
Sent: 10 October 2008 9:27 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Prop pitch

Cecil,
I just did the same thing a few weeks ago. In the end it took 1.5 deg. increase to get the right (6200) rpms.
It is much better that way. Eng. temp are lower and a faster cruise.

Dan Wild
mdl1 532
GSC prop


From: Cecil Stokesberry (stokesc(at)wildblue.net)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:31 AM
To: Kitfox (Kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Prop pitch


I have a GSC 3-blade ground adjustable prop.
If my memory has not failed me I orginally
set the prop angle at 10 deg at 75 deg of radius.
The static rpm is 6800 which is max rpm.
I think the static should be 6200. When
increasing the pitch to reduce static rpm
how many degrees change is there
for, say, each 100 rpm's?
Thanks for any insight.

Cecil
Md 4 582 1050
C gear box


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Prop pitch Reply with quote

5800 static is even better.

Deke Morisse
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Prop pitch Reply with quote

Thanks Dan,

I was just curious since I wasn't the one that pitched my prop, although it seems to be set well. The logbook shows "changed prop pitch to 13.5 degrees" early on and I assume that hasn't changed. It is placarded "Max RPM = 6500" and at WOT and 55 mph best rate of climb it goes to about 6300 and I always reduce to 6000 when I get at least 300 ft off the ground just to get a more comfortable angle in my seat. 75 mph cruise goes with about 5500 rpm in level flight.

Just trying to relate that all to prop pitch, now that I know from this list how a fraction of a degree can make a lot of difference to a lot of things.

Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop (GSC ground-adjustable)
Wrightsville Pa

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Wild
Sent: 10 October 2008 10:10 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Prop pitch

Bob,
I'm actually not sure what the final pitch was or how to figure that exactly. I just used one of those round prop pitch tools with a bubble in the middle. I marked where the current pitch was and then started increasing the pitch. first I went two deg. then ran the engine. It was 5800 or so. then decrease one deg still ran 6500 or so. so I ended up with total 1.5 deg. increase. I have never tried to set a prop. to a certain pitch. I always run the engine, too slow decrease pitch too fast increase pitch and then make sure all blades are exactly the same.

Dan Wild
mdl1 532
GSC prop




From: Bob Brennan (matronics(at)bob.brennan.name)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:39 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Prop pitch


Dan - 1.5 degree increase to what final setting?

Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Wild
Sent: 10 October 2008 9:27 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Prop pitch

Cecil,
I just did the same thing a few weeks ago. In the end it took 1.5 deg. increase to get the right (6200) rpms.
It is much better that way. Eng. temp are lower and a faster cruise.

Dan Wild
mdl1 532
GSC prop


From: Cecil Stokesberry (stokesc(at)wildblue.net)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:31 AM
To: Kitfox (Kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Prop pitch


I have a GSC 3-blade ground adjustable prop.
If my memory has not failed me I orginally
set the prop angle at 10 deg at 75 deg of radius.
The static rpm is 6800 which is max rpm.
I think the static should be 6200. When
increasing the pitch to reduce static rpm
how many degrees change is there
for, say, each 100 rpm's?
Thanks for any insight.

Cecil
Md 4 582 1050
C gear box


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