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skydive80020(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Changing tires on RV6A

At 200 hours its time for new tires and brakes on my 6A. Whats the opinion when changing tires should I replace the tubes as well. And if so what tubes are people having luck with that hold air pressure and need filling less often. 

  

 Mark Phipps, RV6A, "Gypsy Spirit" 200 hours



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denis.walsh(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Changing tires on RV6A

Dear Mark,



Here are some observations, along with several recommendations based on my experience.  I am not a mechanic, and not an expert, and not very experienced with general aviation.

Tire manufacturers recommend changing tubes when changing tires.   Lots of people, including me, have re used tubes.  If they look unfrayed and serviceable it may be ok.... or not.    Here are three arguments for new tubes:



1.  Tubes can get frayed and be subject to going flat.  6A will run a good chance of boogering up wheel pants or puting you in the ditch if flat on landing.

2. Tubes will usually stretch with age.  reinstalling a stretched tube increases chance of pinching which may result in unexpected flat at later date.   See 1. above

3.  New generation, slow leak tubes are now available from van's.  Cost more but go much longer before needing to be refilled.  They cost about as much as cheap tires.





I now buy and install new tubes with tire changes.  Inspect and reuse after rotations.  I am on my 7th set of main tires.  Only one flat on main.  It was a pinched tube after change.  Always try to give it a 24 hour leak check before flying when you can.





I also would recommend installing a new tube in the nose gear at  annual.  Those get frayed and twisted more and I have experienced several flats.  None were fun.  Also carry a spare tube on x country.  One more bit of unsolicited free advice.  Don't install patched tubes on the nose.  Too much wiggling around, Can come loose.

Denis

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		  At 200 hours its time for new tires and brakes on my 6A. Whats the opinion when changing tires should I replace the tubes as well. And if so what tubes are people having luck with that hold air pressure and need filling less often. 

  

 Mark Phipps, RV6A, "Gypsy Spirit" 200 hours



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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: Changing tires on RV6A

mark phipps wrote:

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		   At 200 hours its time for new tires and brakes on my 6A. Whats the 

 opinion when changing tires should I replace the tubes as well. And if 

 so what tubes are people having luck with that hold air pressure and 

 need filling less often.

  

 Mark Phipps, RV6A, "Gypsy Spirit" 200 hours



My opinion is to use the tube until it shows signs of dry rot ..... 
	


small cracks in the surface.  They usually show up long before the tube 

actually leaks.  Other opinions abound, and YMMV.

Linn

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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: Changing tires on RV6A

Denis Walsh wrote:

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		   Dear Mark,

 Here are some observations, along with several recommendations based 

 on my experience.  I am not a mechanic, and not an expert, and not 

 very experienced with general aviation.

 Tire manufacturers recommend changing tubes when changing tires.   

 Lots of people, including me, have re used tubes.  If they look 

 unfrayed and serviceable it may be ok.... or not.    Here are three 

 arguments for new tubes:

 1.  Tubes can get frayed and be subject to going flat.  6A will run a 

 good chance of boogering up wheel pants or puting you in the ditch if 

 flat on landing.

 2. Tubes will usually stretch with age.  reinstalling a stretched tube 

 increases chance of pinching which may result in unexpected flat at 

 later date.   See 1. above

You can mitigate pinching if you use copious amounts of talc when you 

reassemble .... I put talc on both tube and inside of the tire.  Once 

assembled inflate and deflate a couple of times .... I leave the core 

out and use an air gun to do this.

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		   3.  New generation, slow leak tubes are now available from van's. 

  Cost more but go much longer before needing to be refilled.  They 

 cost about as much as cheap tires.

And for me, the cost is a big deterrent to buying a new tube with a new 

tire.

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		   I now buy and install new tubes with tire changes.  Inspect and reuse 

 after rotations.  I am on my 7th set of main tires.  Only one flat on 

 main.  It was a pinched tube after change.

Most likely not the tubes fault.

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		    Always try to give it a 24 hour leak check before flying when you can.

Really good advice!!!

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		   I also would recommend installing a new tube in the nose gear at 

  annual.  Those get frayed and twisted more and I have experienced 

 several flats.  None were fun.  Also carry a spare tube on x country. 

  One more bit of unsolicited free advice.  Don't install patched tubes 

 on the nose.  Too much wiggling around, Can come loose.

C'mon guys ... patching a tube isn't an option (IMHO) ..... for a lot of 

reasons ..... and the ones Denis (with one N) mentioned are big ones.  

Tough to balance a tire with a patch in it.

Now things may be different with the Vans gear .... I don't have any 

experience with Vans stuff ..... yet.

Linn

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 On Oct 22, 2008, at 9:02 , mark phipps wrote:

> At 200 hours its time for new tires and brakes on my 6A. Whats the 

> opinion when changing tires should I replace the tubes as well. And 

> if so what tubes are people having luck with that hold air pressure 

> and need filling less often.

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> Mark Phipps, RV6A, "Gypsy Spirit" 200 hours

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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: Changing tires on RV6A

Mark,

  

 Highly recommend the Michelin Airstop tubes. They  hold the pressure much better and well worth the cost.

 http://www.airmichelin.com/pdfs/GAAIRSTO.pdf

  

 Dale Ensing

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 220 hours

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mr.sun

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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: Changing tires on RV6A

I've been happy with the Michelin tires and their airstop tubes.  Run (at) 32psi on my -7 and have changed tubes each time tire changed,  rotate tires once each year and got two years out last set of tires.  They still had a little life left.

 

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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Dale Ensing <densing(at)carolina.rr.com (densing(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote:

[quote]        Mark,

  

 Highly recommend the Michelin Airstop tubes. They  hold the pressure much better and well worth the cost.

 http://www.airmichelin.com/pdfs/GAAIRSTO.pdf

  

 Dale Ensing

 RV-6A

 220 hours

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