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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

Anybody heard what EFISes will display this data.

http://www.navworx.com/press-releases.html
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

I may have some news for you on that next week.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Anybody heard what EFISes will display this data.

http://www.navworx.com/press-releases.html

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

Let me guess, has something to do with Chelton's. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

Well, it's a long time ago that Chelton started supporting ADS-B,
especially since they were basically what, the first ADS-B enabled
system in the world with the capstone project? So anyway,
ADS-B is already supported and is an option enable-able in
software. What isn't known is if there is any trick to getting
something other than the original ADS-B receiver used for the
project to interface with the system.

Luckily, since I live basically in an area of TIS coverage with
Mode-S, and am only maybe 10-20 minutes from reaching the
ADS-B ground station's range at GRB, I am in a great area
to get traffic from either system.

This weekend I'll be doing some interface work with NavWorx
to see if we can get the NavWorx receiver displaying data
on the Chelton's screens. They also have a cool future benefit
in that their plan is to ALSO receive the TIS info from the
GTX330 transponder, and basically pass that traffic through
their box so that no matter which type of coverage you have,
their box can pass the traffic on to the Chelton.

It may be as simple as plugging in the cable, enabling
the software, and seeing the Wx and Traffic. It may take
more work. But, it sounds like NavWorx is dedicated to
making it available to Chelton's users (and probably
many other systems), so I would think it won't be long and
there will be something worth reporting.

For me, Traffic has become an invaluable option, and so
has weather. I doubt I'll give up WSI's weather at least
until there is almost 100% weather coverage in the lower
48 states, but I'm pumped to be able to add even more
TIS coverage.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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Let me guess, has something to do with Chelton's. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

Last time I flew into EAU in a plane with GTX330 displaying traffic on
GNS430, we lost TIS as soon as beyond MSP airspace and nothing around
EAU.
Kelly

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
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[quote] Luckily, since I live basically in an area of TIS coverage with
Mode-S, and am only maybe 10-20 minutes from reaching the
ADS-B ground station's range at GRB, I am in a great area
to get traffic from either system.

This weekend I'll be doing some interface work with NavWorx
to see if we can get the NavWorx receiver displaying data
on the Chelton's screens. They also have a cool future benefit
in that their plan is to ALSO receive the TIS info from the
GTX330 transponder, and basically pass that traffic through
their box so that no matter which type of coverage you have,
their box can pass the traffic on to the Chelton.

It may be as simple as plugging in the cable, enabling
the software, and seeing the Wx and Traffic. It may take
more work. But, it sounds like NavWorx is dedicated to
making it available to Chelton's users (and probably
many other systems), so I would think it won't be long and
there will be something worth reporting.

For me, Traffic has become an invaluable option, and so
has weather. I doubt I'll give up WSI's weather at least
until there is almost 100% weather coverage in the lower
48 states, but I'm pumped to be able to add even more
TIS coverage.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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>
> <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>
>
> Let me guess, has something to do with Chelton's. Smile
>
> Do not archive
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

Yeah, I can get into TIS coverage at about 4,000', with
ground at 1,000' msl. If you go past KLUM though towards
KEAU, you will lose it not much further than my base
airport. (I'm not based at EAU) When I fly most trips,
if I go west I'm in TIS coverage within 5 minutes of
taking off. I don't often go straight East, but I
get coverage maybe 30-40 minutes into the flight,
and if I go South East towards Chicago, I get TIS
coverage well before KMSN. The Mode S coverage is
actually pretty darn good going from MSP to Florida
or to the East Coast. I had lots and lots of time
within coverage areas on my trip up to New England
a couple weeks ago.

The cool thing about ADS-B is that over time, as
all planes equip, it won't matter if you're even
in range of a GBT to get TIS, as long as the other
plane has ADS-B also. So while Mode S is fairly
widely available and awesome today, but scheduled
for phazing out over the next many years, in that
same timeframe ADS-B will be phasing in and growing,
so having both will really keep someone fully
set up for some great traffic coverage. I don't
regret for a second my GTX330...that thing has
been fantastic.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Kelly McMullen wrote:
[quote]

Last time I flew into EAU in a plane with GTX330 displaying traffic on
GNS430, we lost TIS as soon as beyond MSP airspace and nothing around
EAU.
Kelly

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
>

> Luckily, since I live basically in an area of TIS coverage with
> Mode-S, and am only maybe 10-20 minutes from reaching the
> ADS-B ground station's range at GRB, I am in a great area
> to get traffic from either system.
>
> This weekend I'll be doing some interface work with NavWorx
> to see if we can get the NavWorx receiver displaying data
> on the Chelton's screens. They also have a cool future benefit
> in that their plan is to ALSO receive the TIS info from the
> GTX330 transponder, and basically pass that traffic through
> their box so that no matter which type of coverage you have,
> their box can pass the traffic on to the Chelton.
>
> It may be as simple as plugging in the cable, enabling
> the software, and seeing the Wx and Traffic. It may take
> more work. But, it sounds like NavWorx is dedicated to
> making it available to Chelton's users (and probably
> many other systems), so I would think it won't be long and
> there will be something worth reporting.
>
> For me, Traffic has become an invaluable option, and so
> has weather. I doubt I'll give up WSI's weather at least
> until there is almost 100% weather coverage in the lower
> 48 states, but I'm pumped to be able to add even more
> TIS coverage.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>>
>> <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>
>>
>> Let me guess, has something to do with Chelton's. Smile
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

So here's a question. If you are feeding it TIS info from your 330, would it then rebroadcast that via ADS-B?

Hey Rob, is this in your pipeline to support in the AFS EFIS products?

Michael

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: ADB-S Navworx Reply with quote

In a message dated 10/21/2008 9:50:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rvbuilder(at)sausen.net writes:
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Hey Rob, is this in your pipeline to support in the AFS EFIS products?
We believe that the traffic will already work from it with our system. We should have it verified in the next couple of weeks.

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