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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

May we, as ultralight fliers, make the hop to Grand Bahama Island? I've got a friend who can pick me up, if I can refuel there, then fly to Walkers Cay. -John

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

At 04:49 PM 10/26/2008, you wrote:
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May we, as ultralight fliers, make the hop to Grand Bahama Island?
I've got a friend who can pick me up, if I can refuel there, then
fly to Walkers Cay. -John

What are you flying & who's going to pick you up if your engine quits?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

Possums
Sounds like a great trip! -- hope it comes off. Wondering what the
Bahamian Gov't will charge for such a trip?
Yachts have to pay a several-hundred-dollar 'cruising permit' to
enter the Bahamas.
I'm an interested bystander!
On Oct 26, 2008, at 6:09 PM, possums wrote:

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At 04:49 PM 10/26/2008, you wrote:
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> May we, as ultralight fliers, make the hop to Grand Bahama Island?
> I've got a friend who can pick me up, if I can refuel there, then
> fly to Walkers Cay. -John

What are you flying & who's going to pick you up if your engine quits?



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Bahama bound Reply with quote

When you say Ultralight if you mean no N number, I would expect not. You would need to check with the Bahamian government but I believe few countries allow that. I know Canada does not. Even with an N-numbered experimental you are supposed to get prior permission by the destination country and must have 12-inch N-numbers. I believe you also need a transponder and VHF radio crossing the ADIZ back into the US.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

I think you also must carry a rubber raft.

Several of us were thinking of making the same trip in our FS II's.  We even had available two "fast-boats" to be stationed at 25 mile intervals. Too many problems to overcome.


Howard Shackleford
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In a message dated 10/26/2008 11:06:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jim(at)tru-cast.com writes:
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When you say Ultralight if you mean no N number, I would expect not. You would need to check with the Bahamian government but I believe few countries allow that. I know Canada does not. Even with an N-numbered experimental you are supposed to get prior permission by the destination country and must have 12-inch N-numbers. I believe you also need a transponder and VHF radio crossing the ADIZ back into the US.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

If you mean true Part 103 ULs, I doubt you would be welcome since to
the best of my knowledge, the USA is the only country in the western
hemisphere that permits any kind of flying machine that is not
registered.

If you mean Exp Amateur Built, and you have required equipment which
includes radio and transponder w/ altitude encoder, floatation
equipment etc. then there is no reason I know of that you can't.

If you mean E-LSA, not sure.

If you are a Sport Pilot, maybe not, depends on whether Bahamas
recognizes Sport Pilot. I know Canada does not.

Call the Bahamas aviation agency (whatever it is called) and ask them
to be sure.

Thom in Buffalo


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

John when are you planning no making the crossing? I plan on going but
waiting for information and what is needed for permits to fly over in the
Bahamas. M111C/912

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May we, as ultralight fliers, make the hop to Grand Bahama Island? I've
got a friend who can pick me up, if I can refuel there, then fly to
Walkers Cay. -John


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Bahama bound Reply with quote

I have no itinerary. I have a former Marine buddy working there and from our time in Okinawa, he knew I enjoyed snorkeling alot. I'd been telling him about my Firestar and how much fun I was having flying it around, when he suggested I fly it over and bring my snorkel gear. I'm not sure if he knew I'd try to take him up on it. I can make 170+ miles with my new "5 gal tank". Freeport doesn't seem to be more than 60 or 70 from the Fla coast. I'm just not sure if they'll allow an unregistered UL to fly over. But, who knows? Let me know what you can find out. If they'll let me come over, we'll go at your convenience. -John

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Bahama bound Reply with quote

I looked into this once, a long time ago... my memory may not be
complete, but I do remember that ULs would definitely -not- be
allowed... they only accepted registered aircraft, and certified
pilots, plus they had a lot of other requirements (insurance, fees,
paperwork, raft, etc.)

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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:25 AM, 2danglico <john.tempest(at)basf.com> wrote:
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I have no itinerary. I have a former Marine buddy working there and from our time in Okinawa, he knew I enjoyed snorkeling alot. I'd been telling him about my Firestar and how much fun I was having flying it around, when he suggested I fly it over and bring my snorkel gear. I'm not sure if he knew I'd try to take him up on it. I can make 170+ miles with my new "5 gal tank". Freeport doesn't seem to be more than 60 or 70 from the Fla coast. I'm just not sure if they'll allow an unregistered UL to fly over. But, who knows? Let me know what you can find out. If they'll let me come over, we'll go at your convenience. -John


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