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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Corrosion Protection/Zinc chromate Reply with quote

On Sun, October 26, 2008 5:54 am, Noel Loveys wrote:
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has to be able to have a strong bond with the spars. This means a two part
epoxy is required because it is not dissolved by the fabric adhesive. Zinc
chromate will actually protect the aluminium at a molecular level. Apply it
sparingly and be sure to wear rubber gloves when working with any zinc
chromate.

Noel, Have you been successful obtaining Zinc Chromate based paint or primer in the
last few years?

I ran out and went searching for some and paint brands such as DeRusto and Rustoleum
made no claim of containing it (they used to) so I took the extra effort to get the
MSDS for each of the products that claimed corrosion protection and of the 5 I looked
up, two had zinc phosphate but none had Zinc Chromate in them. I haven't researched
this but it is likely that somebody found that it was detrimental to the quality of
life of laboratory mice or was a runner up in the global warming debacle.

An A&P friend of mine gave me 2 quarts of "Boeing Green" as he called it that were at
least 15 years old. I put the two cans in a Lowes paint shaker for 8 minutes and have
been using it.

I wonder if these new blends with zinc phosphate will work as well. Certainly seems
like some research into this could be useful.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Corrosion Protection/Zinc chromate Reply with quote

Paul,

In reading these pages in ACS, I had always assumed that the Zinc Chromate
primer offered was a solvent based primer as it is available in spray cans
and the Epoxy primer was of a different formulation for it's corrosion
resistance.

Lowell

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Corrosion Protection/Zinc chromate Reply with quote

There is an interesting discussion group that google found with some
questions and responses that are pertinent to this question. They call it
the "Home Page of the Finishing Industry. Go to:

http://www.finishing.com/0600-0799/702.shtml

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Corrosion Protection/Zinc chromate Reply with quote

The last time I saw two part epoxy zinc chromate was a while ago... I would
try one of the suppliers for certified aircraft. Aviall, Wicks and Leavens
in Canada come to mind.

Noel

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Corrosion Protection/Zinc chromate Reply with quote

On Mon, October 27, 2008 6:05 am, Lowell Fitt wrote:
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Paul,

In reading these pages in ACS, I had always assumed that the Zinc Chromate
primer offered was a solvent based primer as it is available in spray cans
and the Epoxy primer was of a different formulation for it's corrosion
resistance.

You have a lot more expertise than I do, but I think that if you're going to paint
over the primer, in some circumstances the Zinc Chromate would be better for one thing
it is flat and has a better tooth. The solvent base must be considered for the type of
stuff you're going to apply to it. I'd sure check with PolyFiber if that's going on
over it. I'm pretty certain that the Epoxy you speak of is compatible with Poly Fiber,
but not being certain, I'd check with them first before buying.

After doing some research, it turns out Boeing has adopted a new anti-corrosion paint
that has less environmental risk. I found the part number for it, but not the content
yet. Found one reference that said it was pricey in small quantities.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Corrosion Protection/Zinc chromate Reply with quote

Now that's a great find Lowell. Thanks i have it bookmarked now.

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