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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

Can anyone tell if this is real?

<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>
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ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

At 10:02 AM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
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Can anyone tell if this is real?

< http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>

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ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever

Yeah, my instructor made me do that maneuver too on my BFR.
I nailed it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

From: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:02:37 -0400

Can anyone tell if this is real?

<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>

Bob,

It looks real and demonstrates that if you have enough power and remaining
control surfaces, plus some luck you can fly anything.

Some time back I watched a video of an Israel jet that landed with most of
the right wing missing. He had to fly with afterburner to keep it in the
air.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: not kolb Reply with quote

I know it's possible in RC at least.

seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

It's a fake. What a shame. Go here for more info.

http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVwebInsiderBlog_ViralVideo_KillaThrill_LostWingLanding_199096-1.html


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

Hello Guy's

It has already been proven it is a fake. It was done using a model plane. My local EAA just sent the proof last night on how it was done. I would post it but I have already deleted it . Sorry

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

BobI've watched this quite a few times and I think it's real. Also incredible! 
And I don't see how it could have been faked
Russ Kinne
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, robert bean wrote:
[quote]Can anyone tell if this is real?

<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>
BB
ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: not kolb Reply with quote

It sure looks real to me too.
I've never seen a large RC aerobatic plane that doesn't use wing tubes. The plane in the vid didn't have them.

I think it's incredible that he got into that spin and was able to recover from it and go on to land, whether it was RC or full-scale !


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

Russ, if you have seen some of the stuff done on sports video games and cut and pastepolitical humor anything can be done.  A reliable eyewitness would be our only source
of verity.
The fact that an RC plane could do it leaves room for possibility.
BB
MkIII, control rods and pins pulled for the annual wing removal and storage.

On 31, Oct 2008, at 7:01 PM, russ kinne wrote:
[quote] BobI've watched this quite a few times and I think it's real. Also incredible! 
And I don't see how it could have been faked
Russ Kinne
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, robert bean wrote:
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Can anyone tell if this is real?

<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>
BB
ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

Bob, you may well be right.I've been in photography all my life, even (blush) faking a few things; but fakes are usually detectable. 
However, I have no RC  experience. Wonder if we'll ever know for sure?
RK
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:28 PM, robert bean wrote:
[quote] Russ, if you have seen some of the stuff done on sports video games and cut and pastepolitical humor anything can be done.  A reliable eyewitness would be our only source
of verity.
The fact that an RC plane could do it leaves room for possibility.
BB
MkIII, control rods and pins pulled for the annual wing removal and storage.

On 31, Oct 2008, at 7:01 PM, russ kinne wrote:
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BobI've watched this quite a few times and I think it's real. Also incredible! 
And I don't see how it could have been faked
Russ Kinne
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, robert bean wrote:
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Can anyone tell if this is real?

<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>
BB
ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

At 08:42 PM 10/31/2008, russ kinne wrote:
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Bob, you may well be right.
I've been in photography all my life, even (blush) faking a few things;
but fakes are usually detectable.
However, I have no RC experience. Wonder if we'll ever know for sure?

Russ, I've done R/C since I was twelve... the plane in the video (until the
very end after the landing when it rolls to a stop and the pilot gets out)
is undoubtedly an R/C, with blurs and out of frame moments hiding transitions.

There are several videos floating around of R/C planes pulling this
off. It does take a very skillful R/C pilot.

-Dana

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

Check out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveSc8Lp0ZE

Some time back I watched a video of an Israel jet that landed with most of
the right wing missing.

Jack B. Hart FF004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: not kolb Reply with quote

At 10:02 AM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
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Can anyone tell if this is real?

< http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>

BB

ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever


Maybe it is, or this flyer is sure ruining his reputation.

http://www.jamesandersson.com/video01.html
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