harley(at)AgelessWings.co Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: [Fwd: The best pilot ever?] |
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Let's put an end to this thread quickly...by discussing it, we are doing EXACTLY what Killathrill Clothing wants...known as "viral advertising"
Here's an email I sent to the Canard Aviator's group when this video was being discussed there. It should answer all your questions (even some you haven't asked yet).
BTW...apparently, this is a standard stunt that advanced RC pilots attempt.
Harley
>>He could be the best pilot ever ............ or the luckiest.<<
Being a great movie CGI and special effects fan, and with a friend of my son's in the business, (she's done the CGI work and lighting for a lot of them - Spiderman 2, for example), that video of the plane's wing coming off and the guy landing didn't quite look right to me. for example, the wheel pants on the roll out look like they were touched up (or not lighted as the plane is later), and the bounce on landing looked more like an RC plane. And there was plenty of focus adjustments and off screen shots to piece in a real aircraft.
So this prompted me to start doing a little research online, and found that another person had beat me to it. From his findings and my suspicions, it looks like that was just a video that was CREATED (and the operative word is "created" by combining a real plane at the end, with an RC, and CGI work to seamlessly connect them) to spread the word about either Red Bull or, more likely, the KillaThrill clothing company.
An RC model builder and flyer, with the online forum name of arithonkelis, did the research and reported as follows.
Harley
"It's fake, and here's why.
There's an "interview" with James Andersson, the pilot, here: http://www.jamesandersson.com/interview.html
I watched the video a few more times after work and started getting a little suspicious. I've seen real stunt planes with enough thrust to 'helicopter' themselves, and I've seen planes knife edge. I think it's theoretically possible for a model plane to do this kind of landing if you've got a good model plane and an incredibly skilled person behind the remote...."
"So, I did more poking around. The James Andersson website claims he is from Great Britain and Germany. However, if it's a real aircraft, where's the aircraft registration number? It could be that it's just too small to see, but watching carefully, I didn't see anything like that.
Then I got suspicious. Whois.net shows that the jamesandersson.com domain is registered to "Sandra Thielecke" with a killathrill email address (ct(at)killathrill.com (ct(at)killathrill.com)).
Then, further through that J. A. website, it claims he has placed 24th, 14th and 15th in Red Bull Air Races. Yet according to the Red Bull Air Race website, there are only 12 racers, so 12th place is dead last - it's impossible to place 14th, 15th or 24th. Disqualification, the most common placement listed on the J. A. website, is also not shown as an option.
Furthermore, a google search doesn't find him listed anywhere on the Red Bull Air Race site. I also tried this for the other races and several of the air shows listed on his site with no success.
The J.A. website also uses country code "GRB" when showing his listings in Red Bull Air Races. However, on the Red Bull Air Race website, Great Britain is represented as GBR, and Germany is represented as GER.
Another suspicious bit: Two copies of this video were posted on YouTube. Both were posted by users with no other postings (MrMarodeur and AirRacer89), 2 days apart. The users' favorite videos are almost identical.
The nail in the coffin, for me, came from the Red Bull Air Race website's About The Race section: Currently there are three different types of aircraft used in the Red Bull Air Race World Championship: the Edge 540, the MXS and the Extra 300SR. James Andersson's website claims he flies a Giles G-300. The Giles G-300 is single-seat, single engine kit plane, but it was produced by AkroTech Aviation, Inc. They went out of business in August 2000. They also have an empty weight of 431kg - and the James Andersson website claims ... reduction in weight to a basic weight of 650kg.
*sigh* So, in short, I think it's a complete fabrication, done with either a computer or an RC plane, either for KillaThrill or Red Bull. I was rather hoping it was real, 'cause that would have been one hell of a flight...
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