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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

601, 650, and 750 builders

  

 This is Aerolite's new engine mount and is ready to ship. the price is  $600.00 + shipping.

 I will have more photo's of the mount on the website later tonight.

  

 www.aeroliteproducts.com

  

 Jeff



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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

Sabrina

  

 Yes I have flown behind every part we make and feel very good doing it and  the reason is not that I think they are good parts it's because the people that  make them are much smarter than myself. One of them builds NHRA dragsters and  the other has an aeronautical degree. While they never went to Embry Riddle they  are still pretty smart guys. The rear unit has a combined total of 135 hrs on 3  different planes with no problems reported. I am tired of trying to fight for  acceptance of my parts the proof will be in the combination of the 5 air planes  our parts are powering.

  

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 Jeff



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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

You are trying to get a flame started aren't you? LOL

  

 Question, is a newly designed  engine part/mount considered a major modification requiring a 5 hour test  period?



  

 Well I would say if the mount is the same as the one you are  replacing and doesn't change the position of the engine it isn't a major  modification but some would. I guess it would be up to the DAR. 

  

 If so, is that test period as  restrictive as the Phase 1 so that you have to do it solo?



  

 Others can answer that better than me but I would say if you revert back to  Phase 1 the same rules would apply as the first Phase 1.

  

 Jeff

  

  

  

 Question, is a newly designed engine part/mount considered a major  modification requiring a 5 hour test period?



If so, is that test period  as restrictive as the Phase 1 so that you have to do it  solo?

 

  



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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

In a message dated 11/5/2008 11:54:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  chicago2paris(at)msn.com writes:

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		  Flame,    no...  I was just leading up to this...  (I must admit I am jealous    of your CNC and resin skills)



I heard you have a student pilot    certificate and I was wondering how you get all your Phase 1 product test    flights signed off by your CFI or does your CFI fly with you?



My    particular airworthiness paperwork allows a student pilot or higher to fly my    Phase 1 and I want to fly part of the Phase 1 so regardless of the number of    hours flown by my test pilot, I will not have my aircraft endorsed out of    phase 1--I am waiting for the U.S. to either issue my ICAO conversion or at    the latest, I turn 16 next June so I can get a U.S. medical    then.



However, I can't find a CFI willing to sign me or any student    pilot off for a solo experimental Phase 1 flight.   Any    advice?



Finally, a question to the group, since my airworthiness    paperwork allows a student pilot to fly Phase 1, would a pre-solo student be    allowed to fly phase 1 with their CFI since the CFI would be a necessary crew    member in the licensing as opposed to operational aspect of the    flight?

	


 

 Just about everything we have made is CNC but they aren't my skills I just  have ideas for better products and thru countless hours of sketches, e-mail's,  and phone calls the real craftsman send me the finished part for testing. I  would bet you wouldn't believe the first rear unit Aerolite built is on a 601xl  with over 70 hours on it and working flawlessly without so much as a single  alteration. Ben and I are adding the new parts to his plane and it will be flown  back to Florida next week. Bill Clapp is testing our rear unit on his KR and has  25 hours on it and he is very happy with the performance. 

  

 The pieces you saw in the picture is sanded foam with a coat of epoxy  to protect the foam from the tooling gel coat as it will melt the foam (Don't  ask me how I know) and ruin the master. I am working on a 2 piece cowl also for  the corvair and everything will be at Sun and Fun next year.

  

 In Jan. I will be in Alabama and will be installing one of our engines in a  750 that will be at Sun and Fun also.

  

 I do have a student lic. and I have soloed a Tomahawk a 150 and a 172 I  just need to take the written and take my check ride and I will be finished but  I am only 40 so I have some time left I hope. right now I am having fun building  and helping others finish there projects. 

  

 We have a test pilot that we use that is more experienced to do  the first flights of new parts, I don't as a student do it. Once the hours are  flown off I plop my but in the plane I helped build and we go flying and that's  my paycheck. 

  

 jeff

  

  



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ideaz1(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

I'm not an expert but it seems to me as a student pilot, when you are 

endorsed for solo flight, it is SEL (single engine land) and not airplane 

model specific so it's not up to the CFI which plane you fly. Within the 

scope of your student rating you can fly all the hours you want, and finish 

the test phase, then do the balance of your PPL in your own plane. It is 

also legal to have a second test pilot on board to perform tasks you deem a 

part of the testing that require a second crew member(like data collection). 

It's one of the technicalities that allow an instructor to go with you.



Saying that, I am on my 3rd homebuilt project and would NEVER suggest that a 

student pilot do the initial test flights, because of the little bugs that 

may show up and be quite scarry. Both of my initial flights were white 

nuckle deals and were just issues of minor rigging adjustments needed. So I 

forget where you are in this process but generally I'd say get checked out 

in the same plane you're building to get comfortable with it's handling and 

let someone else do the first 2 or 3 test flights in your plane. After that 

you'll have any adjusting of the plane figured out and have a fun and 

exciting time doing your testing.



All the best to you,

Dirk

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notsew_evets(at)frontiern
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

When a CFI signs off a student to fly, its for a specific make and model of 

aircraft.  An intelligent instructor will also ok the student for a specific 

number of days to solo that aircraft.....

I assume the CFI could sign off for an experimental but the liability would 

be tremendous...

And then the insurance would be waaaay off the chart.

The instructor is also responsible for the student when he/she is alone.

Steve Weston

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Re: New engine mount now ready to ship

 	  Sabrina wrote: 	
		  



Good news for my continued test flights... originally the FAA had three proposals to extend class bravo for OHare, one basically took my test area away, one had the "Sabrina notch" for KARR and one took just 1/3 of a mile away from my Eastern edge (which was too populated anyhow.)    The later seems to be the one the FAA is going with.   Thank you FAA! 	




Sabrina,



Keep one thing in mind. With the election of our new President you can expect several new and ever changing TFRs in the Chicago area. While we won't be surprised to see you in the news in the future. We don't want to see your plane being escorted by black helicopters and F-16s.



As far as signing off for the 40 hours I think that would be a very good question for the EAA.

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LHusky

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Posts: 86
Location: Madras, Oregon

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

I just checked my log book for my private pilot license.  I was  checked off to fly a Cessna 172.  I was also told by my instructor that I  was to use this plane only.  I do not know if it was for insurance reasons  or what, but it was very specific on the plane and it was for 90 days.   Even now that I have my license, I have to get checked out in any other type of  plane that I want to rent.  That I am sure is for insurance reasons. 

  

 Larry Husky 

 Madras, Oregon 

  

  In a message dated 11/6/2008 7:05:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  ideaz1(at)sbcglobal.net writes:

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		  -->    Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Zahtilla"    <ideaz1(at)sbcglobal.net>



I'm not an expert but it seems to me as a    student pilot, when you are 

endorsed for solo flight, it is SEL (single    engine land) and not airplane 

model specific so it's not up to the CFI    which plane you fly. Within the 

scope of your student rating you can fly    all the hours you want, and finish 

the test phase, then do the balance of    your PPL in your own plane. It is 

also legal to have a second test pilot    on board to perform tasks you deem a 

part of the testing that require a    second crew member(like data collection). 

It's one of the technicalities    that allow an instructor to go with you.



Saying that, I am on my 3rd    homebuilt project and would NEVER suggest that a 

student pilot do the    initial test flights, because of the little bugs that 

may show up and be    quite scarry. Both of my initial flights were white 

nuckle deals and were    just issues of minor rigging adjustments needed. So I 

forget where you are    in this process but generally I'd say get checked out 

in the same plane    you're building to get comfortable with it's handling and 

let someone else    do the first 2 or 3 test flights in your plane. After that 

you'll have any    adjusting of the plane figured out and have a fun and 

exciting time doing    your testing.



All the best to you,

Dirk

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From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris(at)msn.com>

To:    <zenith-list(at)matronics.com>

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:53    PM

Subject: Re: New engine mount now ready to    ship

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		   --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Sabrina"    <chicago2paris(at)msn.com>



 Flame, no...  I was just    leading up to this...  (I must admit I am jealous 

 of your CNC    and resin skills)



 I heard you have a student pilot certificate    and I was wondering how you 

 get all your Phase 1 product test flights    signed off by your CFI or does 

 your CFI fly with you?



    My particular airworthiness paperwork allows a student pilot or higher to    

 fly my Phase 1 and I want to fly part of the Phase 1 so regardless of    the 

 number of hours flown by my test pilot, I will not have my    aircraft 

 endorsed out of phase 1--I am waiting for the U.S. to either    issue my ICAO 

 conversion or at the latest, I turn 16 next June so I    can get a U.S. 

 medical then.



 However, I can't find a    CFI willing to sign me or any student pilot off 

 for a solo    experimental Phase 1 flight.   Any advice?



 Finally,    a question to the group, since my airworthiness paperwork allows 

 a    student pilot to fly Phase 1, would a pre-solo student be allowed to fly    

 phase 1 with their CFI since the CFI would be a necessary crew member    in 

 the licensing as opposed to operational aspect of the    flight?





 Read this topic online    here:



    http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212638#212638



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ideaz1(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

OK, I just checked  the regs and found: You need a endorsement for each make and model of airplane  you intend to solo in. Meaning you need to find a rental to get checked out in,  then you can fly your own plane of the same make and model.

 The checkout is a  one time deal and your student cert. lasts for 2 years (should be enough time to  do 40 hrs.)You can also get a new medical/ student cert. after 2 years and the  original checkout is still valid. There is no 90 day rule. 

  

 I wasn't sure  about the checkrides cuz I flew 4 different models of plane during my solo  phase, but I did get checked out in (don't tell, 3 of them). Anyway once you get  your private or sport the checkrides are only for rental purposes to satisfy  insurance requirements, you are licensed for any plane in the category of your  license.

  

 Dirk

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ashleyw(at)gvtc.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

Dirk,

  

 Nice try but you stopped reading one paragraph too soon.

  

  

 (2) An endorsement in the student's logbook for the specific make and model  aircraft to be flown by an authorized instructor, who gave the training within  the 90 days preceding the date of the flight.



 Floyd Wilkes

 601XL )-200

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LHusky

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Posts: 86
Location: Madras, Oregon

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: New engine mount now ready to ship

That is what my instructor told me.  He had to sign my book for  another 90 days.  Now that I have my license, the rental aircraft  owners around here require that I make 3 take off and landings for insurance  reasons, within 90 days, or I will have to be checked out again by an  instructor.  Not a requirement for the FAA but for insurance. 

  

 Larry Husky 

 Madras, Oregon

  

  In a message dated 11/6/2008 6:50:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  ashleyw(at)gvtc.com writes:

 [quote]   Dirk,

    

   Nice try but you stopped reading one paragraph too soon.

    

    

   (2) An endorsement in the student's logbook for the specific make and    model aircraft to be flown by an authorized instructor, who gave the training    within the 90 days preceding the date of the flight.



   Floyd Wilkes

   601XL )-200

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