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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

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The stock firewall on an HDS is galvanized and I just tried the compass test. Not with a Wal-Mart cheapie, but with an AirPath whiskey compass I picked up from Barnstormers. I know I can't locate the remote compass on the radio tray because the needle deflects 30+ degrees to the firewall. I think I'm OK with aft of the pilot's seat as close to the cockpit side skin as possible.
Of course, there is an upside to all this. If an examiner asks why I don't have a whiskey compass, I can truthfully say that it would always point to the firewall, and I already know where that is.
HDS people- how did you deal with this?? Larry, you don't have to answer because I know you made your firewall out of stainless.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Hi Bill,
Your compass should be adjustable to cancel near magnetic influence to a
lesser degree. My stick would influence the compass in full forward
position, but
I was able to adjust to correct the N S E W compass readings regardless
of where the stick was positioned. Perhaps you might be able to also.

Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

Bill Naumuk wrote:
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All-
The stock firewall on an HDS is galvanized and I just tried the
compass test. Not with a Wal-Mart cheapie, but with an AirPath whiskey
compass I picked up from Barnstormers. I know I can't locate the
remote compass on the radio tray because the needle deflects 30+
degrees to the firewall. I think I'm OK with aft of the pilot's seat
as close to the cockpit side skin as possible.
Of course, there is an upside to all this. If an examiner asks why
I don't have a whiskey compass, I can truthfully say that it would
always point to the firewall, and I already know where that is.
HDS people- how did you deal with this?? Larry, you don't have to
answer because I know you made your firewall out of stainless.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Larry-
That takes care of the whiskey compass, but not the D-100 remote.
Bill
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

That's why my compass is hanging from the canopy, it's the only place I could find where I could get it to swing properly. I couldn't get my $150 Hamilton vertical card compass to work anywhere near the panel and it was too big to hang from the canopy. The $10 Airguide compass I bought at Meijer was small and light enough to mount up there and I was able to adjust the compensators for an accurate swing, so I sold the Hamilton and kept the Airguide.
On Nov 9, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Bill Naumuk wrote:
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All-
The stock firewall on an HDS is galvanized and I just tried the compass test. Not with a Wal-Mart cheapie, but with an AirPath whiskey compass I picked up from Barnstormers. I know I can't locate the remote compass on the radio tray because the needle deflects 30+ degrees to the firewall. I think I'm OK with aft of the pilot's seat as close to the cockpit side skin as possible.
Of course, there is an upside to all this. If an examiner asks why I don't have a whiskey compass, I can truthfully say that it would always point to the firewall, and I already know where that is.
HDS people- how did you deal with this?? Larry, you don't have to answer because I know you made your firewall out of stainless.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Bill,
I haven't tried that yet. I will go out and take my compass and see how it reacts to the firewall. I'm almost at that step also.
Jerry
HDS 912

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All-
The stock firewall on an HDS is galvanized and I just tried the compass test. Not with a Wal-Mart cheapie, but with an AirPath whiskey compass I picked up from Barnstormers. I know I can't locate the remote compass on the radio tray because the needle deflects 30+ degrees to the firewall. I think I'm OK with aft of the pilot's seat as close to the cockpit side skin as possible.
Of course, there is an upside to all this. If an examiner asks why I don't have a whiskey compass, I can truthfully say that it would always point to the firewall, and I already know where that is.
HDS people- how did you deal with this?? Larry, you don't have to answer because I know you made your firewall out of stainless.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Gentlemen

I am sure you are aware of the film you can wrap around the compass to prevent any metal or electrical interference when installing a compass....right? Maybe I am missing something here.... please correct me not wanting to intrude on your conversations..


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From: Jerry Latimer <jlatimer1(at)cox.net>
Subject: RE: Remote compass location
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:42 PM

Bill,
I haven't tried that yet. I will go out and take my compass and see how it reacts to the firewall. I'm almost at that step also.
Jerry
HDS 912

From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:21 AM
To: zenith list
Subject: Remote compass location

All-
The stock firewall on an HDS is galvanized and I just tried the compass test. Not with a Wal-Mart cheapie, but with an AirPath whiskey compass I picked up from Barnstormers. I know I can't locate the remote compass on the radio tray because the needle deflects 30+ degrees to the firewall. I think I'm OK with aft of the pilot's seat as close to the cockpit side skin as possible.
Of course, there is an upside to all this. If an examiner asks why I don't have a whiskey compass, I can truthfully say that it would always point to the firewall, and I already know where that is.
HDS people- how did you deal with this?? Larry, you don't have to answer because I know you made your firewall out of stainless.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS 601MG/Corvair 95%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Before I put the remote compass where I did I spoke to dynon about it and he said it isn't as sensitive as most think and the fact that I placed 2 of them within 12 inches of the fire wall and haven't had any problems quantify's that. If I had had problems with them I certainly wouldn't be building my 3rd and 4th panel that way.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Jerry-
My workspace is really crowded, so I don't know how much deviation I'm getting from things like my furnace, etc. I really hope I can get by with behind the pilot seat, because that would be the easiest other than the radio tray. THAT I know isn't viable. Do you have the OEM galvanized firewall? I actually increased the thickness of mine.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

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Jerry-
My workspace is really crowded, so I don't know how much deviation I'm getting from things like my furnace, etc. I really hope I can get by with behind the pilot seat, because that would be the easiest other than the radio tray. THAT I know isn't viable. Do you have the OEM galvanized firewall? I actually increased the thickness of mine.
Bill


I just went outside and placed by compass next to the firewall. As I moved it away from the firewall I got about a 15 degree deviation. There was no more deviation by the time I got the compass on the firewall side of the instrument panel. The compass actually stopped deviating about half way between the firewall and the instrument panel.

I do have the origanal galvanized firewall. I've also been using an magnetic trouble light attached to firewall while working on the motor wiring. I won't do that anymore.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Jeff-
Do you have a stainless or galvanized firewall?
Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

galvanized

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Jeff-
At this point I honest to God don't know what to think. Guess I'll try the tray and see if it works.
Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Well If you want you can talk to Pat or Ben ... They have flown behind them and they can tell you how well it works or don't work. Don't just take my word for it.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Remote compass location Reply with quote

Jeff-
You know where I'm coming from- I just don't want to have to do something over that will involve me tearing half the plane apart and standing on my head!
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