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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: Mr. Geipel

Dear Matt, 



I have been a reader and contributor to the YAK list for years now since

I first purchased my YAK-50.  In that period of time I have watched, and

in some cases participated in, many off-topic discussions that most

likely never should have been part of the YAK LIST.  However, even

though I have had strong feelings about some of these topics, I have

never complained about any one person in particular.  However, over the

years I have seen one or two people that really got the most joy in life

by making other people angry, and once they start, they simply do NOT

give up.  



We now have such a person on the YAK LIST by the name of Bill Geipel.

This gent and myself had a disagreement about Missing Man Formations.

Ok, disagreements happen and that is not the end of the world.  The fact

is, I am more than happy to respect this persons point of view, but on

the contrary, this gent just keeps attacking everybody he can think of,

and myself in particular.  



He will misquote messages and then post things I never said, he will

take private email that I have written to others and then when he gets

his hands on it, he posts it as public email.  



In short, anything he can do to continue a hateful dialogue.  



I enjoy the YAK list, and have a ton of friends here, and I enjoy the

opportunity to help others.  I do not enjoy this man pushing, pushing,

pushing, for public name calling contests.  



I have never written to you before, and as I have said, my hands are not

squeaky clean either, but enough is enough.  



Please offer your help and advice in this matter, 



Sincerely, 



Mark Bitterlich

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Matt Dralle
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Mr. Geipel

Yak Listers,



While I haven't been following the threads mentioned by Mark below, I will take this opportunity to reemphasize the List Usage Guidelines found in the FAQ here:



        http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm



Specifically, these come to mind:



 - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone

   polite and respectful.  Don't make snide comments, personally attack

   other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously

   controversial issue.  This will only cause a pointless debate that

   will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.

 

 - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT

   then go ahead and reply to the List.  Be aware that clicking the

   "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your

   response to the original poster.  You might have to actively address

   your response with the original poster's email address.



 - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit

   posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long

   lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.



Offensive behavior is grounds for removal and blocking from the List.  Please be courteous and respectful to all members of the group.



Word to the wise...



Matt Dralle

Matronics Email List Administrator



At 09:41 AM 11/24/2008  Monday, you wrote:

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 Dear Matt, 



I have been a reader and contributor to the YAK list for years now since

I first purchased my YAK-50.  In that period of time I have watched, and

in some cases participated in, many off-topic discussions that most

likely never should have been part of the YAK LIST.  However, even

though I have had strong feelings about some of these topics, I have

never complained about any one person in particular.  However, over the

years I have seen one or two people that really got the most joy in life

by making other people angry, and once they start, they simply do NOT

give up.  



We now have such a person on the YAK LIST by the name of Bill Geipel.

This gent and myself had a disagreement about Missing Man Formations.

Ok, disagreements happen and that is not the end of the world.  The fact

is, I am more than happy to respect this persons point of view, but on

the contrary, this gent just keeps attacking everybody he can think of,

and myself in particular.  



He will misquote messages and then post things I never said, he will

take private email that I have written to others and then when he gets

his hands on it, he posts it as public email.  



In short, anything he can do to continue a hateful dialogue.  



I enjoy the YAK list, and have a ton of friends here, and I enjoy the

opportunity to help others.  I do not enjoy this man pushing, pushing,

pushing, for public name calling contests.  



I have never written to you before, and as I have said, my hands are not

squeaky clean either, but enough is enough.  



Please offer your help and advice in this matter, 



Sincerely, 



Mark Bitterlich


	


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