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grantr



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: help picking video camera Reply with quote

I plan on buying a digital video camera with Christmas money. I don't want the most expensive camera but I don't want cheap low quality either.

I want to be able to download the videos to youtube and other websites.

Do any of you have any reccomendations?

Grant


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: help picking video camera Reply with quote

Sony is the clear leader in video cameras, with image quality, advanced technology, and quality. I would most definitely recommend a Hard Drive camera, that way you can get like 30 hours or more of recording without ever messing with tapes. With a DV tape or CD camera, they always seem to run out at the the worst possible time, and have you ever tried to change a tape while flying a Kolb, it can be done, but its a pain in the arse ! The Hard drive camera has a really great picture, and Sony cameras have very good Image stabilization which is VERY important when shooting video from an airplane. I'm glad to see you are getting a camera, cant wait to see a bunch of your videos !

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: help picking video camera Reply with quote

At 07:25 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote:
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I plan on buying a digital video camera with Christmas money. I
don't want the most expensive camera but I don't want cheap low quality either.

I want to be able to download the videos to youtube and other websites.

Do any of you have any reccomendations?

Grant


This one works pretty good - about 2 years old. I'm sure they have better
or newer models now. Can shoot about 30 minutes of HD video on a charge.
It records on a chip that you can take out & plug into your computer
- You can make
mpeg4s for Youtube or burn HD disk for the TV or just watch & edit it
on the computer.
http://www.broadwayphoto.com/productlistings.aspx?FC=F_SYVPCHD1AG&L=google

On the cage/gap seal:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6787107193246239411&hl=en

On the wing:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid 63159682459782825&hl=en

On my helmet:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2887020469201792731&hl=en


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R. Hankins



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: help picking video camera Reply with quote

Grant,
One thing to keep in mind with a hard drive camera is that metal disks in hard drives are supported by air bearings. When researching video cameras I was looking at operating limitations (max-min temperature, etc) and noticed that most hard drive cameras in my price range were not recommended above 8000ft density altitude. That ruled them out for my use. It may not be an issue depending on where you typically operate. Eastern Oregon flying often requires cruising above 8000' if you want more than two minutes of glide above rough terrain.

The trade off in mid range cameras is quality vs convenience. I bought a mini DV camera a year ago because at that time I could get picture quality equal to a hard drive camera at 1/2 the price because of the video compression needed in the hard drive camera. The downside is that getting files off of tape is a real pain compared to dragging and dropping files off of a hard drive or memory card. Mini DV is going away and hard drive cameras are getting cheaper.

Looking back, the convenience factor is more important than I thought. There are a lot of files still on tape that I haven't bothered to put online because of the time it takes to play it out of the camera into the computer.

I agree that a hard drive camera is a great way to go if it fits your budget and operating window. This info is accurate as of a year ago. Check the specs an any camera you are interested in to see if there are altitude limitations.

Good luck on your quest. I look forward to seeing your clips online.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: help picking video camera Reply with quote

Another thing to consider is that if size is important most newer regular digital cameras can make movies at 640x480 and are only limited in length by the memory card to stick in it.

I have a Casio EX-Z1080 that I got online for $135 and is an awesome 10 megapixel camera for stills as well as video.

It does "Ultra High Quality" 848x480 wide screen resolution movies as well.

It has settings for taking UTube videos so what you download from the camera is ready to go online as is.

I would buy a Digital Video camera if you want HD video, but you can not post that quality/size to uTube as I understand it.

If you want a video sample I can send one to you to check it out.

One thing you will find is that the convenience of carrying a camera around with you is proportional to how much you will actaully use it. In other words if it is small and will fit in your pocket, you will use it more than hauling around the bigger one, and likely capture more video opportunities than the more planned stuff with the bigger one.

I carry mine around with me everywhere and end up with great sunsets, cool cloud and weather anomolies, funny moments, beautiful women....errrrrr...planes I mean.... etc

Plus being small and relatively cheap I will be more likely to hang it out in the breeze.

Just some things to consider.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: help picking video camera Reply with quote

I have a Cannon Elura 100 and I love it. I've had it two years so I'm sure there is a better model or brand out there by now...It uses mini DV tapes to store video (not HD), and a memory card to hold pictures and compressed video. The bad thing about a hard drive is you are limited to what it will hold while with tape you can put in another tape when one is full. You may not be able to get to a computer to unload your video off of the hard drive.....Just my two cents!.......Mike

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