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rflick(at)ovalinternet.ne
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 Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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is anyone flying a 601 hd - hds with vw power? i am thinking of useing a porsche 914 2.0 eng with a redrive and would like to hear any comments or tips. thanks ralph
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hills(at)sunflower.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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Anyone flying with a VW? Ya, that’s me, but I have the HDS.
You don’t use the 914 with a redrive, here is why.
The VW is already too heavy for the 601
You can’t get the waste heat out of the engine if it
produces over 80 Hp, the air cooled heads don’t have enough fin area.
The prop would be too long for the wheel clearance on a redrive.
914 parts cost more than 2180 VW
You don’t need the extra power, 75 HP will do fine in an HD
Hope this helps
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Flick
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10 PM
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Subject: vw in 601 hds
is anyone flying a 601 hd - hds with vw power? i am thinking of useing a porsche 914 2.0 eng with a redrive and would like to hear any comments or tips. thanks ralph
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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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Ralph-
For very little more outlay than a VW, you get 100hp from a Corvair conversion.
Bill
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hills(at)sunflower.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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Corvair, YIKES,,,,
I thought my VW was heavy. The corvair is WAY over 200 lbs.
Don’t ya folks read the max weight spec on the 601s?
Ya don’t want your engine falling off with your firewall, do ya?
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:04 PM
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Subject: Re: vw in 601 hds
Ralph-
For very little more outlay than a VW, you get 100hp from a Corvair conversion.
Bill
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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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Forget I ever said anything. You've already made your decision. Best of luck.
Bill
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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Personally I know of a lot more Corvair-powered 601s than VW. And I routinely see Corvair-powered 601s in Zenith’s booth at the shows. Not to mention the Zenith web site which reads:
Engines:
Jabiru 3300
Continental O-200
Corvair
Lycoming
Rotax
Others
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From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger & Lina Hill
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:34 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: vw in 601 hds
Corvair, YIKES,,,,
I thought my VW was heavy. The corvair is WAY over 200 lbs.
Don’t ya folks read the max weight spec on the 601s?
Ya don’t want your engine falling off with your firewall, do ya?
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:04 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: vw in 601 hds
Ralph-
For very little more outlay than a VW, you get 100hp from a Corvair conversion.
Bill
do not archive
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From: Roger & Lina Hill (hills(at)sunflower.com)
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: RE: vw in 601 hds
Anyone flying with a VW? Ya, that’s me, but I have the HDS.
You don’t use the 914 with a redrive, here is why.
The VW is already too heavy for the 601
You can’t get the waste heat out of the engine if it
produces over 80 Hp, the air cooled heads don’t have enough fin area.
The prop would be too long for the wheel clearance on a redrive.
914 parts cost more than 2180 VW
You don’t need the extra power, 75 HP will do fine in an HD
Hope this helps
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Flick
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: vw in 601 hds
is anyone flying a 601 hd - hds with vw power? i am thinking of useing a porsche 914 2.0 eng with a redrive and would like to hear any comments or tips. thanks ralph
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grs-pms(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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My Stratus Subaru weighs about the same as an O-200 or Corvair and not only is it approved for the 601HD/HDS but a firewall-forward kit was supplied.
George Swinford
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jimandmandy(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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I think you may have read the 701 weight limit not the 601, which has even been powered by the Lycoming O-235 with Zenith's blessing.
My first candidate for a kit plane was the Sonex with VW power. Once I chose he 601 airframe (originally 601HD) I realized the VW was not enough engine, particularly here in the West with high terrain.
Jim Lobue
601XL/Corvair
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[quote]From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills(at)sunflower.com>
Subject: RE: vw in 601 hds
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:34 PM
Corvair, YIKES,,,,
I thought my VW was heavy. The corvair is WAY over 200 lbs.
Don¢t ya folks read the max weight spec on the 601s?
Ya don¢t want your engine falling off with your firewall, do ya?
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:04 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: vw in 601 hds
Ralph-
For very little more outlay than a VW, you get 100hp from a Corvair conversion.
Bill
do not archive
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hills(at)sunflower.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: vw in 601 hds |
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Jim;
Ok, ya caught me, I was just trying to stir the pot. !!!!!
Yes, I agree that the corvair is not to heavy for the 601 from a structural standpoint. I would note that with my VW installation,
the usable load is reduced to about 520 lbs, but some might say that is still fine for a 2 place plane.
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jimbo
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:03 AM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: vw in 601 hds
I think you may have read the 701 weight limit not the 601, which has even been powered by the Lycoming O-235 with Zenith's blessing.
My first candidate for a kit plane was the Sonex with VW power. Once I chose he 601 airframe (originally 601HD) I realized the VW was not enough engine, particularly here in the West with high terrain.
Jim Lobue
601XL/Corvair
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Roger & Lina Hill <hills(at)sunflower.com> wrote:
From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills(at)sunflower.com>
Subject: RE: vw in 601 hds
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:34 PM
Corvair, YIKES,,,,
I thought my VW was heavy. The corvair is WAY over 200 lbs.
Don¢t ya folks read the max weight spec on the 601s?
Ya don¢t want your engine falling off with your firewall, do ya?
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:04 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: vw in 601 hds
Ralph-
For very little more outlay than a VW, you get 100hp from a Corvair conversion.
Bill
do not archive
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From: Roger & Lina Hill (hills(at)sunflower.com)
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: RE: vw in 601 hds
Anyone flying with a VW? Ya, that¢s me, but I have the HDS.
You don¢t use the 914 with a redrive, here is why.
The VW is already too heavy for the 601
You can¢t get the waste heat out of the engine if it
produces over 80 Hp, the air cooled heads don¢t have enough fin area.
The prop would be too long for the wheel clearance on a redrive.
914 parts cost more than 2180 VW
You don¢t need the extra power, 75 HP will do fine in an HD
Hope this helps
Roger
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Flick
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:10 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: vw in 601 hds
is anyone flying a 601 hd - hds with vw power? i am thinking of useing a porsche 914 2.0 eng with a redrive and would like to hear any comments or tips. thanks ralph
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