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riffeljl(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my 1st Flight:

  

 ____________________

      

Ground   

Equipment:   

Fire extinguisher 
 

Hatchet 
 

Knife 
 

Gloves 
 

Phillips screwdriver
 
 

monitor freq: 122.85 
 

Record Launch Time: __________________________________ 
 

Prompt/record:                 

Elapsed  

Oil Press  

Oil Temp  

EGT1  

EGT2  

EGT3  

EGT4  

CHT1  

CHT2  

CHT3  

CHT4   

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IF CHT => 400°F, advise LANDING 
 

30 Minutes   

Prompt for    

RPM: ______________ 
 

MAP: ______________ 
 

AIRSPEED: _________
 
 

Remind to LAND
 
 

Record Landing Time: _______________ 
 

IF CRASH:   

Dial 911 & give location 
 

Save Pilot – aircraft is secondary 
 

Gloves, knife, hatchet, Fire Extinguisher 
 

Canopy latch rotates CLOCKWISE to OPEN 
 

MASTER OFF (lower left panel) 
 

Fuel Selector: (center, front of spar)   

OFF (aft left)
 
 

Seat belts: PULL FLAP 
 

Shoulder Harness: PULL TABS to LOOSEN 
 

Cowl:   

Oil Door for top cowl hinge wires on firewall 
 

Phillips screwdriver for hinge wires on cowl halves
 
 

Battery located on pilot side firewall
 
 

Chase   

Monitor 122.85 
 

Com check: Ground/TestFlight 
 

Depart first; take station EAST of runway 
 

Take up ½ mile trail  
 

Check Fluids/Flapping Parts 
 

If TestFlight rocks wings:   

Come up on right wing till TestFlight acknowledges 
 

Fly under to left wing, then over top to right wing 
 

Signal TestFlight:   

OK: Thumbsup 
 

Problems: cut Throat to land
 
 

Emergencies:   

Com Failure:   

Come up on right wing  
 

Point to Ears
 
 

Parts/Fluid/fire:   

Come up on right wing 
 

Cut Throat to indicate landing  
 

Remind pilot:    

Master Off 
 

FUEL OFF 
 

Canopy Unlatched – but closed
 
 

Crash:   

Tell Ground location 
 

Circle till Ground arrives
 
 

TestFlight   

Equipment:   

Fire extinguisher 
 

Hatchet 
 

Knife
 
 

Com: 122.85 
 

Com Check: Ground/Chase 
 

Ensure EIS configuration set for oil temp 
 

Retest Brakes on taxi/runup 
 

Depart after Chase 
 

TAKEOFF:   

FULL POWER, FULL RICH (lean only to smooth engine) 
 

70-75% power    

3000', 2400/24"
 
 

Verify Airspeed registering 
 

Boost Pump Off 
 

Orbit, traffic pattern direction, ½ mile radius of airport  
 

IF CHT => 400°F, LAND 
 

Tasks   

Straight & Level:    

Both trims in neutral 
 

Record vsi/roll: _____________________________________________________ 
 

Adjust for level
 
 

Tell Ground OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs 
 

Check w/ Chase that area is clear 
 

Stall   

Slow to mushy controls/buffet 
 

Airspeed: _________ 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs 
 

Flaps: 20% (two marks) 
 

Airspeed: _________ 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs 
 

Flaps: FULL 
 

Airspeed: _________ 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs
 
 

Airspeed Check:   

Setup Airspeed to 120 kts 
 

Call Chase to right side 
 

Compare airspeeds with Chase
 
 

Land   

Downwind: 1.5 times clean stall (80-90 kts?) 
 

Base: 20° flaps 
 

Stay on mains if possible
 
 

Signals:   

Ears: com failure 
 

Cut Throat: Land 
 

Rock Wings: Chase come up to look over TestFlight
 

  [quote][b]

HCRV6(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

In my experience if your engine is new or newly overhauled your 400 Deg limit for CHT on the first flight is overly conservative.  On my first flight with a new O-360 from Van's the CHT's, which now approach 400 deg only in a hot day full power climb at near gross, went over 400 deg on the initial climb out.  Since Lycoming sets 450 deg as the NTE if I recall correctly, you can safely use that temp as your limit.  Just my opinion.



Harry Crosby

RV-6 N16CX, 530 hours



---

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

IMHO, 400 degrees should be a take action point, either add airspeed, fuel or reduce power, as appropriate to the situation. I would use 425 as a never exceed limit, as metal deformation can occur above that. Lycoming's numbers are WAY too hot if you want your cylinders and rings to survive. This time of year there shouldn't be any problem staying below 400. Initial climb out should be as flat and fast as terrain and obstacles permit for max cooling during first high power run.

 Kelly McMullen

 A&P/IA

 Tech Counselor

 

 HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net) wrote: [quote]   p { margin: 0; }   In my experience if your engine is new or newly overhauled your 400 Deg limit for CHT on the first flight is overly conservative.Â  On my first flight with a new O-360 from Van's the CHT's, which now approach 400 deg only in a hot day full power climb at near gross, went over 400 deg on the initial climb out.Â  Since Lycoming sets 450 deg as the NTE if I recall correctly, you can safely use that temp as your limit.Â  Just my opinion.

   

 Harry Crosby

 RV-6 N16CX, 530 hours

   

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_________________
Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
KCHD

rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

My personal opinion, and I know people will disagree....... that is WAY to much to be concerned about on your first flight, you should be doing nothing more than flying the plane and monitoring temps. Scope out off field landing places prior to flight but then again why would you fly further than gliding distance from the field.........

so just fly 2o minutes, land, check for leaks, celebrate and then ease into the below. I do like the "chase" portion though.



The first flight will be exciting enough with out having a check list a mile long to deal with..........unless of course your a former test pilot.........my comments above are for Joe average pilot.

 

Scott 

RV-8a



From: J Riffel <riffeljl(at)gmail.com>

To: rv-list <rv-list(at)matronics.com>

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:37:44 PM

Subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?



 I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my 1st Flight:

  

 ____________________

      

Ground   

Equipment:   

Fire extinguisher 
 

Hatchet 
 

Knife 
 

Gloves 
 

Phillips screwdriver
 
 

monitor freq: 122.85 
 

Record Launch Time: __________________________________ 
 

Prompt/record:                 

Elapsed  

Oil Press  

Oil Temp  

EGT1  

EGT2  

EGT3  

EGT4  

CHT1  

CHT2  

CHT3  

CHT4   

2 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   

5 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   

10 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   

15 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   

20 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   

25 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   

30 min  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



 
 

IF CHT => 400°F, advise LANDING 
 

30 Minutes   

Prompt for    

RPM: ______________ 
 

MAP: ______________ 
 

AIRSPEED: _________
 
 

Remind to LAND
 
 

Record Landing Time: _______________ 
 

IF CRASH:   

Dial 911 & give location 
 

Save Pilot – aircraft is secondary 
 

Gloves, knife, hatchet, Fire Extinguisher 
 

Canopy latch rotates CLOCKWISE to OPEN 
 

MASTER OFF (lower left panel) 
 

Fuel Selector: (center, front of spar)   

OFF (aft left)
 
 

Seat belts: PULL FLAP 
 

Shoulder Harness: PULL TABS to LOOSEN 
 

Cowl:   

Oil Door for top cowl hinge wires on firewall 
 

Phillips screwdriver for hinge wires on cowl halves
 
 

Battery located on pilot side firewall
 
 

Chase   

Monitor 122.85 
 

Com check: Ground/TestFlight 
 

Depart first; take station EAST of runway 
 

Take up ½ mile trail  
 

Check Fluids/Flapping Parts 
 

If TestFlight rocks wings:   

Come up on right wing till TestFlight acknowledges 
 

Fly under to left wing, then over top to right wing 
 

Signal TestFlight:   

OK: Thumbsup 
 

Problems: cut Throat to land
 
 

Emergencies:   

Com Failure:   

Come up on right wing  
 

Point to Ears
 
 

Parts/Fluid/fire:   

Come up on right wing 
 

Cut Throat to indicate landing  
 

Remind pilot:    

Master Off 
 

FUEL OFF 
 

Canopy Unlatched – but closed
 
 

Crash:   

Tell Ground location 
 

Circle till Ground arrives
 
 

TestFlight   

Equipment:   

Fire extinguisher 
 

Hatchet 
 

Knife
 
 

Com: 122.85 
 

Com Check: Ground/Chase 
 

Ensure EIS configuration set for oil temp 
 

Retest Brakes on taxi/runup 
 

Depart after Chase 
 

TAKEOFF:   

FULL POWER, FULL RICH (lean only to smooth engine) 
 

70-75% power    

3000', 2400/24"
 
 

Verify Airspeed registering 
 

Boost Pump Off 
 

Orbit, traffic pattern direction, ½ mile radius of airport  
 

IF CHT => 400°F, LAND 
 

Tasks   

Straight & Level:    

Both trims in neutral 
 

Record vsi/roll: _____________________________________________________ 
 

Adjust for level
 
 

Tell Ground OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs 
 

Check w/ Chase that area is clear 
 

Stall   

Slow to mushy controls/buffet 
 

Airspeed: _________ 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs 
 

Flaps: 20% (two marks) 
 

Airspeed: _________ 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs 
 

Flaps: FULL 
 

Airspeed: _________ 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs
 
 

Airspeed Check:   

Setup Airspeed to 120 kts 
 

Call Chase to right side 
 

Compare airspeeds with Chase
 
 

Land   

Downwind: 1.5 times clean stall (80-90 kts?) 
 

Base: 20° flaps 
 

Stay on mains if possible
 
 

Signals:   

Ears: com failure 
 

Cut Throat: Land 
 

Rock Wings: Chase come up to look over TestFlight
 

  [quote][b]

ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

Hopefully someone else will record all that data.  Not the test  pilot.

  

 Ron Lee

 [quote]   ---

sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

Wow! I've been flying my RV-6 for 900 hrs and don't think I'd have the 

presence of mind to punch half the stuff on that list.  



Sam Buchanan



http://thervjournal.com



===================



J Riffel wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my 1st Flight:

 

 ____________________

 

 

    1.

 

    *Ground*

     1.

 

       Equipment:

        1.

 

          Fire extinguisher

          2.

 

          Hatchet

          3.

 

          Knife

          4.

 

          Gloves

          5.

 

          Phillips screwdriver

          2.

 

       monitor freq: *122.85*

       3.

 

       *Record Launch Time: __________________________________*

       4.

 

       Prompt/record:

 

       *Elapsed*

 

       *Oil Press*

 

       *Oil Temp*

 

       *EGT1*

 

       *EGT2*

 

       *EGT3*

 

       *EGT4*

 

       *CHT1*

 

       *CHT2*

 

       *CHT3*

 

       *CHT4*

 

       *2 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        *5 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        *10 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        *15 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        *20 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        *25 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        *30 min*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

       5.

 

       *IF CHT => 400°F, advise LANDING*

       6.

 

       *30 Minutes*

        1.

 

          Prompt for

           1.

 

             RPM: ______________

             2.

 

             MAP: ______________

             3.

 

             AIRSPEED: _________

             2.

 

          Remind to LAND

          7.

 

       *Record Landing Time: _______________*

       8.

 

       IF CRASH:

        1.

 

          Dial 911 & give location

          2.

 

          *Save Pilot – aircraft is secondary*

          3.

 

          Gloves, knife, hatchet, Fire Extinguisher

          4.

 

          Canopy latch rotates *CLOCKWISE* to OPEN

          5.

 

          *MASTER OFF (lower left panel)*

          6.

 

          *Fuel Selector: (center, front of spar)*

           1.

 

             *OFF (aft left)*

             7.

 

          Seat belts: P*ULL FLAP*

          8.

 

          Shoulder Harness: *PULL TABS* to LOOSEN

          9.

 

          Cowl:

           1.

 

             Oil Door for top cowl hinge wires on firewall

             2.

 

             Phillips screwdriver for hinge wires on cowl halves

             10.

 

          Battery located on pilot side firewall

          2.

 

    *Chase*

     1.

 

       Monitor *122.85*

       2.

 

       Com check: Ground/TestFlight

       3.

 

       Depart first; take station *EAST *of runway

       4.

 

       Take up ½ mile trail

       5.

 

       Check Fluids/Flapping Parts

       6.

 

       *If TestFlight rocks wings:*

        1.

 

          Come up on right wing till TestFlight acknowledges

          2.

 

          Fly under to left wing, then over top to right wing

          3.

 

          Signal TestFlight:

           1.

 

             OK: Thumbsup

             2.

 

             Problems: cut Throat to land

             7.

 

       *Emergencies:*

        1.

 

          Com Failure:

           1.

 

             Come up on right wing

             2.

 

             Point to Ears

             2.

 

          Parts/Fluid/fire:

           1.

 

             Come up on right wing

             2.

 

             Cut Throat to indicate landing

             3.

 

             Remind pilot:

              1.

 

                *Master Off*

                2.

 

                *FUEL OFF*

                3.

 

                Canopy Unlatched – but closed

                3.

 

          Crash:

           1.

 

             Tell Ground location

             2.

 

             Circle till Ground arrives

             3.

 

    *TestFlight*

     1.

 

       Equipment:

        1.

 

          Fire extinguisher

          2.

 

          Hatchet

          3.

 

          Knife

          2.

 

       Com:* 122.85*

       3.

 

       Com Check: Ground/Chase

       4.

 

       Ensure EIS configuration set for oil temp

       5.

 

       Retest Brakes on taxi/runup

       6.

 

       Depart after Chase

       7.

 

       TAKEOFF:

        1.

 

          FULL POWER, FULL RICH (lean only to smooth engine)

          2.

 

          70-75% power

           1.

 

             3000', 2400/24"

             8.

 

       Verify Airspeed registering

       9.

 

       Boost Pump Off

       10.

 

       Orbit, traffic pattern direction, ½ mile radius of airport

       11.

 

       *IF CHT => 400°F, LAND*

       12.

 

       Tasks

        1.

 

          Straight & Level:

           1.

 

             Both trims in neutral

             2.

 

             Record vsi/roll:

             _____________________________________________________

             3.

 

             Adjust for level

             2.

 

          Tell Ground OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

          3.

 

          Check w/ Chase that area is clear

          4.

 

          Stall

           1.

 

             Slow to mushy controls/buffet

             2.

 

             Airspeed: _________

             3.

 

             Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

             4.

 

             Flaps: 20% (two marks)

             5.

 

             Airspeed: _________

             6.

 

             Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

             7.

 

             Flaps: FULL

             8.

 

             Airspeed: _________

             9.

 

             Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

             5.

 

          Airspeed Check:

           1.

 

             Setup Airspeed to 120 kts

             2.

 

             Call Chase to right side

             3.

 

             Compare airspeeds with Chase

             6.

 

          Land

           1.

 

             Downwind: 1.5 times clean stall (80-90 kts?)

             2.

 

             Base: 20° flaps

             3.

 

             Stay on mains if possible

             13.

 

       *Signals:*

        1.

 

          *Ears:* com failure

          2.

 

          *Cut Throat:* Land

          3.

 

          *Rock Wings:* Chase come up to look over TestFlight

ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

EGT is not very important on the first flight

  

 Ron

 [quote]   ---

timb

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 77
Location: Frankston, Texas

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

I completely agree with another post; this is way more than you need to worry about on your first and even the second flight.  Focus on how the plane feels, and try some slow flight before landing.  Don’t venture too far from the airport, keep it short maybe 15 or 20 minutes and then land and go celebrate.  The 25 – 40 hours after this will provide plenty of time to figure out the rest in small chunks.  Your complete attention is needed to verify controllability and landing potential on your first flight.  

   

Just my .02 cents worth.  

   

Tim Bryan  

RV-6 Flying  

N616TB over 120 hours now  

         

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of J Riffel

 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:38 PM

 To: rv-list

 Subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?  

  

  

     

I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my 1st Flight:  

    

   

    

____________________  

    

    

<![if !supportLists]>1.   <![endif]>Ground  

<![if !supportLists]>1.   <![endif]>Equipment:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.   <![endif]>Fire extinguisher  

<![if !supportLists]>2.   <![endif]>Hatchet  

<![if !supportLists]>3.   <![endif]>Knife  

<![if !supportLists]>4.   <![endif]>Gloves  

<![if !supportLists]>5.   <![endif]>Phillips screwdriver  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>monitor freq: 122.85  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Record Launch Time: __________________________________  

<![if !supportLists]>4.      <![endif]>Prompt/record:          

Elapsed         

Oil Press         

Oil Temp         

EGT1         

EGT2         

EGT3         

EGT4         

CHT1         

CHT2         

CHT3         

CHT4             

2 min                                           

5 min                                           

10 min                                           

15 min                                           

20 min                                           

25 min                                           

30 min                                      

<![if !supportLists]>5.      <![endif]>IF CHT => 400°F, advise LANDING  

<![if !supportLists]>6.      <![endif]>30 Minutes  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Prompt for   

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>RPM: ______________  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>MAP: ______________  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>AIRSPEED: _________  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Remind to LAND  

<![if !supportLists]>7.      <![endif]>Record Landing Time: _______________  

<![if !supportLists]>8.      <![endif]>IF CRASH:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Dial 911 & give location  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Save Pilot – aircraft is secondary  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Gloves, knife, hatchet, Fire Extinguisher  

<![if !supportLists]>4.      <![endif]>Canopy latch rotates CLOCKWISE to OPEN  

<![if !supportLists]>5.      <![endif]>MASTER OFF (lower left panel)  

<![if !supportLists]>6.      <![endif]>Fuel Selector: (center, front of spar)  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>OFF (aft left)  

<![if !supportLists]>7.      <![endif]>Seat belts: PULL FLAP  

<![if !supportLists]>8.      <![endif]>Shoulder Harness: PULL TABS to LOOSEN  

<![if !supportLists]>9.      <![endif]>Cowl:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Oil Door for top cowl hinge wires on firewall  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Phillips screwdriver for hinge wires on cowl halves  

<![if !supportLists]>10.  <![endif]>Battery located on pilot side firewall  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Chase  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Monitor 122.85  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Com check: Ground/TestFlight  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Depart first; take station EAST of runway  

<![if !supportLists]>4.      <![endif]>Take up ½ mile trail   

<![if !supportLists]>5.      <![endif]>Check Fluids/Flapping Parts  

<![if !supportLists]>6.      <![endif]>If TestFlight rocks wings:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Come up on right wing till TestFlight acknowledges  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Fly under to left wing, then over top to right wing  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Signal TestFlight:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>OK: Thumbsup  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Problems: cut Throat to land  

<![if !supportLists]>7.      <![endif]>Emergencies:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Com Failure:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Come up on right wing   

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Point to Ears  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Parts/Fluid/fire:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Come up on right wing  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Cut Throat to indicate landing   

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Remind pilot:   

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Master Off  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>FUEL OFF  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Canopy Unlatched – but closed  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Crash:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Tell Ground location  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Circle till Ground arrives  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>TestFlight  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Equipment:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Fire extinguisher  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Hatchet  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Knife  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Com: 122.85  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Com Check: Ground/Chase  

<![if !supportLists]>4.      <![endif]>Ensure EIS configuration set for oil temp  

<![if !supportLists]>5.      <![endif]>Retest Brakes on taxi/runup  

<![if !supportLists]>6.      <![endif]>Depart after Chase  

<![if !supportLists]>7.      <![endif]>TAKEOFF:  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>FULL POWER, FULL RICH (lean only to smooth engine)  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>70-75% power   

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>3000', 2400/24"  

<![if !supportLists]>8.      <![endif]>Verify Airspeed registering  

<![if !supportLists]>9.      <![endif]>Boost Pump Off  

<![if !supportLists]>10.  <![endif]>Orbit, traffic pattern direction, ½ mile radius of airport   

<![if !supportLists]>11.  <![endif]>IF CHT => 400°F, LAND  

<![if !supportLists]>12.  <![endif]>Tasks  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Straight & Level:   

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Both trims in neutral  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Record vsi/roll: _____________________________________________________  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Adjust for level  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Tell Ground OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Check w/ Chase that area is clear  

<![if !supportLists]>4.      <![endif]>Stall  

<![if !supportLists]>1.      <![endif]>Slow to mushy controls/buffet  

<![if !supportLists]>2.      <![endif]>Airspeed: _________  

<![if !supportLists]>3.      <![endif]>Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs  

<![if !supportLists]>4.      <![endif]>Flaps: 20% (two marks)  

<![if !supportLists]>5.      <![endif]>Airspeed: _________  

<![if !supportLists]>6.      <![endif]>Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs  

<![if !supportLists]>7.      <![endif]>Flaps: FULL  

<![if !supportLists]>8.      <![endif]>Airspeed: _________  

<![if !supportLists]>9.      <![endif]>Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs  

<![if !supportLists]>5.      <![endif]>Airspeed Check:  

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Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

A system I have used as a Flight Advisor that keeps  the test pilot attention on flying the airplane and not trying to read the  flight plan and record data:

  

 A person on the ground with handheld radio w/  headset and clip board with the flight plan/check list.The ground person calls  out the items. Test pilot checks the insurments/airplane and responds to the  ground member. Ground person records the data and flight time. 

  

 A preflight briefing between test pilot and  ground crew helps all this take place.

  

 Dale Ensing

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

Good advice Tim! My first flight in my Pitts started with a couple dozen 

of my friends around the hangar. I was gone for an hour .... because I 

think I was too scared to land ..... y'all probably know that the Pitts 

has a reputation for doing wild ballet during landing .... but the 

landing was a no-brainer. Only a few die-hards remained when I returned 

to the hangar, and it was a small celebration. In that hour I don't 

think I got the Pitts outside the airport boundary!!! Having learned 

from others over the years, a short (15-20 minutes) is long enough to 

get the engine operating temps up and to uncover any oil leaks that may 

crop up. Becoming comfortable with the amount of control necessary to 

control the airplane is probably the biggest variable between planes. I 

think we become more 'ham fisted' with the adrenaline rush .... and 

there certainly is a big rush .... 

Linn

do not archive



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 I completely agree with another post; this is way more than you need 

 to worry about on your first and even the second flight. Focus on how 

 the plane feels, and try some slow flight before landing. Don’t 

 venture too far from the airport, keep it short maybe 15 or 20 minutes 

 and then land and go celebrate. The 25 – 40 hours after this will 

 provide plenty of time to figure out the rest in small chunks. Your 

 complete attention is needed to verify controllability and landing 

 potential on your first flight.



 Just my .02 cents worth.



 *Tim Bryan*



 *RV-6 Flying*



 *N616TB over 120 hours now*

lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

Very well said Tim... And no big crowd necessary!  



Darrell

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Tim Bryan <n616tb(at)btsapps.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   From: Tim Bryan <n616tb(at)btsapps.com>

 Subject: RE: 1st Flight Test Plan?

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 7:57 AM

 I completely agree with another post; this is way more than

 you need to

 worry about on your first and even the second flight. 

 Focus on how the

 plane feels, and try some slow flight before landing. 

 Donâ€™t venture too far

 from the airport, keep it short maybe 15 or 20 minutes and

 then land and go

 celebrate.  The 25 â€“ 40 hours after this will provide

 plenty of time to

 figure out the rest in small chunks.  Your complete

 attention is needed to

 verify controllability and landing potential on your first

 flight.

 

  

 

 Just my .02 cents worth.

 

  

 

 Tim Bryan

 

 RV-6 Flying

 

 N616TB over 120 hours now

 

  

 

 From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of J

 Riffel

 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:38 PM

 To: rv-list

 Subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

 

  

 

 I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my

 1st Flight:

 

  

 

 ____________________

 

   

 

 1.   Ground

 

 1.   Equipment:

 

 1.   Fire extinguisher

 

 2.   Hatchet

 

 3.   Knife

 

 4.   Gloves

 

 5.   Phillips screwdriver

 

 2.      monitor freq: 122.85

 

 3.      Record Launch Time:

 __________________________________

 

 4.      Prompt/record:

 

 

 Elapsed

 

 Oil Press

 

 Oil Temp

 

 EGT1

 

 EGT2

 

 EGT3

 

 EGT4

 

 CHT1

 

 CHT2

 

 CHT3

 

 CHT4

 

 

 2 min

 

 	

 

 

 5 min

 

 	

 

 

 10 min

 

 	

 

 

 15 min

 

 	

 

 

 20 min

 

 	

 

 

 25 min

 

 	

 

 

 30 min

 

 	

 

 

 5.      IF CHT => 400Â°F, advise LANDING

 

 6.      30 Minutes

 

 1.      Prompt for 

 

 1.      RPM: ______________

 

 2.      MAP: ______________

 

 3.      AIRSPEED: _________

 

 2.      Remind to LAND

 

 7.      Record Landing Time: _______________

 

 8.      IF CRASH:

 

 1.      Dial 911 & give location

 

 2.      Save Pilot â€“ aircraft is secondary

 

 3.      Gloves, knife, hatchet, Fire Extinguisher

 

 4.      Canopy latch rotates CLOCKWISE to OPEN

 

 5.      MASTER OFF (lower left panel)

 

 6.      Fuel Selector: (center, front of spar)

 

 1.      OFF (aft left)

 

 7.      Seat belts: PULL FLAP

 

 8.      Shoulder Harness: PULL TABS to LOOSEN

 

 9.      Cowl:

 

 1.      Oil Door for top cowl hinge wires on firewall

 

 2.      Phillips screwdriver for hinge wires on cowl halves

 

 10.  Battery located on pilot side firewall

 

 2.      Chase

 

 1.      Monitor 122.85

 

 2.      Com check: Ground/TestFlight

 

 3.      Depart first; take station EAST of runway

 

 4.      Take up Â½ mile trail 

 

 5.      Check Fluids/Flapping Parts

 

 6.      If TestFlight rocks wings:

 

 1.      Come up on right wing till TestFlight acknowledges

 

 2.      Fly under to left wing, then over top to right wing

 

 3.      Signal TestFlight:

 

 1.      OK: Thumbsup

 

 2.      Problems: cut Throat to land

 

 7.      Emergencies:

 

 1.      Com Failure:

 

 1.      Come up on right wing 

 

 2.      Point to Ears

 

 2.      Parts/Fluid/fire:

 

 1.      Come up on right wing

 

 2.      Cut Throat to indicate landing 

 

 3.      Remind pilot: 

 

 1.      Master Off

 

 2.      FUEL OFF

 

 3.      Canopy Unlatched â€“ but closed

 

 3.      Crash:

 

 1.      Tell Ground location

 

 2.      Circle till Ground arrives

 

 3.      TestFlight

 

 1.      Equipment:

 

 1.      Fire extinguisher

 

 2.      Hatchet

 

 3.      Knife

 

 2.      Com: 122.85

 

 3.      Com Check: Ground/Chase

 

 4.      Ensure EIS configuration set for oil temp

 

 5.      Retest Brakes on taxi/runup

 

 6.      Depart after Chase

 

 7.      TAKEOFF:

 

 1.      FULL POWER, FULL RICH (lean only to smooth engine)

 

 2.      70-75% power 

 

 1.      3000', 2400/24"

 

 8.      Verify Airspeed registering

 

 9.      Boost Pump Off

 

 10.  Orbit, traffic pattern direction, Â½ mile radius of

 airport 

 

 11.  IF CHT => 400Â°F, LAND

 

 12.  Tasks

 

 1.      Straight & Level: 

 

 1.      Both trims in neutral

 

 2.      Record vsi/roll:

 _____________________________________________________

 

 3.      Adjust for level

 

 2.      Tell Ground OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 

 3.      Check w/ Chase that area is clear

 

 4.      Stall

 

 1.      Slow to mushy controls/buffet

 

 2.      Airspeed: _________

 

 3.      Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 

 4.      Flaps: 20% (two marks)

 

 5.      Airspeed: _________

 

 6.      Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 

 7.      Flaps: FULL

 

 8.      Airspeed: _________

 

 9.      Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 

 5.      Airspeed Check:

 

 1.      Setup Airspeed to 120 kts

 

 2.      Call Chase to right side

 

 3.      Compare airspeeds with Chase

 

 6.      Land

 

 1.      Downwind: 1.5 times clean stall (80-90 kts?)

 

 2.      Base: 20Â° flaps

 

 3.      Stay on mains if possible

 

 13.  Signals:

 

 1.      Ears: com failure

 

 2.      Cut Throat: Land

 

 3.      Rock Wings: Chase come up to look over TestFlight

craigtxtx(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

I did this about two weeks ago and agree with previous comments.  Your total focus needs to be on flying the airplane and monitoring engine performance to the extent you assure that it continues to make noise.  Plenty of time to record stuff later.  Keep it simple.  Keep it short. Stay focused on the airplane.  Have fun.

  

 Craig Gallenbach

 RV8A N184CG

 5 hours



--- On Wed, 12/10/08, J Riffel <riffeljl(at)gmail.com> wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  From: J Riffel <riffeljl(at)gmail.com>

Subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

To: "rv-list" <rv-list(at)matronics.com>

Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 8:37 PM



  I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my 1st Flight:

  

 ____________________

      

Ground

   

Equipment:

   

Fire extinguisher

 
 

Hatchet

 
 

Knife

 
 

Gloves

 
 

Phillips screwdriver

 [*] 

monitor freq: 122.85

 [*] 

Record Launch Time: __________________________________

 [*] 

Prompt/record:

                 Elapsed

  Oil Press

  Oil Temp

  EGT1

  EGT2

  EGT3

  EGT4

  CHT1

  CHT2

  CHT3

  CHT4

   2 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   5 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   10 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   15 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   20 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   25 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



   30 min

  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



  



 [*] 

IF CHT => 400°F, advise LANDING

 [*] 

30 Minutes

   

Prompt for 

   

RPM: ______________

 
 

MAP: ______________

 
 

AIRSPEED: _________

  [*] 

Remind to LAND

  [*] 

Record Landing Time: _______________

 [*] 

IF CRASH:

   

Dial 911 & give location

 
 

Save Pilot – aircraft is secondary

 
 

Gloves, knife, hatchet, Fire Extinguisher

 
 

Canopy latch rotates CLOCKWISE to OPEN

 
 

MASTER OFF (lower left panel)

 
 

Fuel Selector: (center, front of spar)

   

OFF (aft left)

 
 

Seat belts: PULL FLAP

 
 

Shoulder Harness: PULL TABS to LOOSEN

 
 

Cowl:

   

Oil Door for top cowl hinge wires on firewall

 
 

Phillips screwdriver for hinge wires on cowl halves

 [*] 

Battery located on pilot side firewall

 
  [*] 

Chase

   

Monitor 122.85

 
 

Com check: Ground/TestFlight

 
 

Depart first; take station EAST of runway

 
 

Take up ½ mile trail 

 
 

Check Fluids/Flapping Parts

 
 

If TestFlight rocks wings:

   

Come up on right wing till TestFlight acknowledges

 
 

Fly under to left wing, then over top to right wing

 
 

Signal TestFlight:

   

OK: Thumbsup

 
 

Problems: cut Throat to land

  [*] 

Emergencies:

   

Com Failure:

   

Come up on right wing 

 
 

Point to Ears

 [*] 

Parts/Fluid/fire:

   

Come up on right wing

 
 

Cut Throat to indicate landing 

 
 

Remind pilot: 

   

Master Off

 
 

FUEL OFF

 
 

Canopy Unlatched – but closed

 
  [*] 

Crash:

   

Tell Ground location

 
 

Circle till Ground arrives

 
 
  [*] 

TestFlight

   

Equipment:

   

Fire extinguisher

 
 

Hatchet

 
 

Knife

  [*] 

Com: 122.85

 [*] 

Com Check: Ground/Chase

 [*] 

Ensure EIS configuration set for oil temp

 [*] 

Retest Brakes on taxi/runup

 [*] 

Depart after Chase

 [*] 

TAKEOFF:

   

FULL POWER, FULL RICH (lean only to smooth engine)

 
 

70-75% power 

   

3000', 2400/24"

  [*] 

Verify Airspeed registering

 [*] 

Boost Pump Off

 [*] 

Orbit, traffic pattern direction, ½ mile radius of airport 

 [*] 

IF CHT => 400°F, LAND

 [*] 

Tasks

   

Straight & Level: 

   

Both trims in neutral

 
 

Record vsi/roll: _____________________________________________________

 
 

Adjust for level

  [*] 

Tell Ground OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 [*] 

Check w/ Chase that area is clear

 [*] 

Stall

   

Slow to mushy controls/buffet

 
 

Airspeed: _________

 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 
 

Flaps: 20% (two marks)

 
 

Airspeed: _________

 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

 
 

Flaps: FULL

 
 

Airspeed: _________

 
 

Check: OilT/P, EGTs, CHTs

  [*] 

Airspeed Check:

   

Setup Airspeed to 120 kts

 
 

Call Chase to right side

 
 

Compare airspeeds with Chase

  [*] 

Land

   

Downwind: 1.5 times clean stall (80-90 kts?)

 
 

Base: 20° flaps

 
 

Stay on mains if possible

 
  [*] 

Signals:

   

Ears: com failure

 
 

Cut Throat: Land

 
 

Rock Wings: Chase come up to look over TestFlight

 
 
 

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

You did not say what type of instrumentation you are using to tell you

the info you want.  I have the EIS from Grand Rapids that has limits

(both high and low) set in the unit.  If any of these are exceeded, the

"big red light" turns on and tells you what is the offending parameter. 

That way, on my first flight, and the rest of them, I could concentrate

on flying the plane.   There is enough stress on the pilot for the first

flight with out taking your attention off the flying.   CHT's are the

most important thing to watch.   I kept my airspeed on take off in the

110K range.  This gave me good cooling as well as good visibility.  It

also gives you many options if things get sticky.  Airspeed is life as

the air force jocks will tell you.  The biggest problem will be to loose

the airspeed on downwind.  That means that I need to reduce power as soon

as I get to downwind altitude.  Tough to do with the slippery RV's.   In

thirty seconds you will be ready to turn cross wind and then thirty

seconds later, to down wind.   It all happens fast !!!!!!

Jim

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: 1st Flight Test Plan?

On 10-Dec-08, at 21:37 , J Riffel wrote:



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		   I'd appreciate any constructive input on my plan for my 1st Flight:




	


Three comments:



1. I'd drop the formation airspeed check.  Doing a 120 kt airspeed  

check just adds more low power time, which detracts from the engine  

break-in, but it doesn't tell you anything that can't wait a few  

flights.  Take your IAS at the full flap stall, and multiply by about  

1.5, and do a very quick controllablity evaluation at that speed.  If  

it feels good, use that for the initial approach speed.  You can work  

on dialing that down a bit slower on subsequent flights.



2. I'd restrict the duration to 20 minutes, or less.  There are a lot  

of things that can be happening ahead of the firewall on the first  

flight, and it is best to keep the duration short, and then do a very  

detailed inspection before flying again.  I know of several RV owners  

who had the alternator pulley wear through the cowling on the first  

flight.  I thought I had enough clearance between the alternator  

pulley and the cowling, but apparently the air loads push the lower  

cowling aft.  I did a 20 minute first flight, and my alternator pulley  

put a very deep gouge in the cowling.  I think it may have worn all  

the way through in 30 minutes.  It is a lot easier to fill in a gouge,  

that it is to repair it if it comes all the way through.  I also had  

an issue with heat stress on the throttle cable, as it was too close  

to the exhaust.



3. I wouldn't record EGT.  It tells you nothing useful.  CHTs, oil  

temperature and oil pressure should be monitored.  Recording them is  

optional.



I like the detailed notes on ground items, chase briefing, etc.



Good luck,



--

Kevin Horton

Ottawa, Canada

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