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chris Sinfield

Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 270
Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: radio selection help

Guys and Girls,



Radio selection time.. 

My choices are the Microair M760   or the Icom 210??  I am looking at using the vox intercom in both as my pax intercom. 



The Microair M760 is an Aussie design and light weight, smaller and easier to install.



The 210 will it also interface with the Garmon 495?



anyone flying and using  with these radios have an opinion??



Chris Sinfield

Zodiac XL

Sydney Australia

craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: radio selection help

Why not the XCOM?



-- Craig



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: radio selection help

Not flying yet but I went with the 210 because of the monitor of the standby freq. It pretty much gives you 2 radios in one and was a lot cheaper than the SL40 which has the same feature.



As far as talking to the 495, I don't know. It is supposed to work with the 496 but it is a feature not supported by either Garmin or Icom. According to Stein at SteinAir it "should" work and is a one wire connection.

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: radio selection help

BTW: the MGL radio is just beginning to ship. I don't know about Australia

but all they are waiting for in the US is a letter from the FAA. The

Australian dealer is:



http://www.lightflying.com.au/



The specs are here:



http://www.mglavionics.co.za/VHF10.htm



Manual here:



http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/V10%20Transceiver%20manual.pdf



PC simulator here:



http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Software/VHF.exe



It supports a superset of the Garmin SL-40 serial protocol.



-- Craig



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jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: radio selection help

Chris,

 

 I have an ICOM IC-A200 transceiver in my airplane.  It has an intercom function, but I had heard that it was not really adequate.  I installed a Softcomm ATC-2P and am happy with the combination.

 

 Jay in Dallas

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chris Sinfield

Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 270
Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: radio selection help

Why not the XCOM? 



Also made in Australia  and a cloner of the 760. but out of experience if you get a good one its good, but our club had 10 in a group buy and 8 had to be exchanged or returned for repair within 12 months..



Maybe a bad batch but it was our experience and has turned me away from them until their reliability improves.. True Mr Coats replaced or repaired each one so good customer back up  for XCom , but just gunshy ,sorry did I write the guns word?..

Chris

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: radio selection help

Thanks for the info on the XCOM. I have an unflown one. Guess I'll see how

lucky I am.



Here is an excerpt from an Oct 2008 joint press release from Narco and XCOM

titled "Narco Avionics and XCOM Avionics, Manufacturing Partnership

Agreement":



"Since the radios inception the XCOM has been built in Australia with a

large majority (approximately 90%) of our product being shipped

internationally with most of this going to the USA. Production issues in

Australia have forced us to look for another manufacturer, we tried several

manufacturers in Australia but none of these could offer reliable and

quality production which basically meant we had a fantastic product that was

being let down by poor manufacturing which was out of our control. The best

way around this is to find a manufacturer who is already familiar with

avionics and has the ability to manufacture correctly to TSO standards, will

stand behind their work and most importantly take pride in what they are

doing!



For this reason we have entered into a cooperation with Narco Avionics who

are the world's longest standing avionics business. This partnership gives

XCOM the complete confidence that our product will be manufactured and

tested beyond the standards which are required for efficient and continuous,

long-term , durable operations. It really means we can stand behind our

product with more confidence than ever before and it also gives Narco

exposure to the LSA, experimental and Ultralight market which is rapidly

expanding."



-- Craig



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: radio selection help

I went with a separate intercom (PM-3000) as well. Mainly for the extra audio inputs.

 	  jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote: 	
		  Chris,

 

 I have an ICOM IC-A200 transceiver in my airplane.  It has an intercom function, but I had heard that it was not really adequate.  I installed a Softcomm ATC-2P and am happy with the combination.

 

 Jay in Dallas

 Do not archive

 

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_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

rpf(at)wi.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: radio selection help

Guys,



I have the XCOM radio and really like it.  I don't know if things changed 

but when I purchased it I also looked at the Microair and Icom but their 

built in intercom was not voice activated (VOX).  It just had a hot mic and 

everyone who installed one also installed a separate intercom.  The XCOM has 

a voice activated intercom and it works very well (at least mine does). 

I've been flying my plane for about a year and a half and have over 230 

hours on it.



Randy

601xl

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chris Sinfield

Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 270
Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: radio selection help

thanks for the input with the Xcom.. sounds like it was a bad batch of radios.. with the new Narco  partnership I hope it goes well but now the radio will be pricer due to the US$ fluctuations I guess.. 



Randy

With the XCOM was the VOX ok with 2 people and can you TX from both headsets if connected up??



See this is what we should use the energy.. keep building, keep flying within the limits..



glass half full / half empty???

I am so happy to have bought the XL as when it comes out the other end of all this it will be the most analyzed, scrutinized, looked over for got ya sized, plane that I will have every confidence in flying it once its finished.. 



look at the DC10 look it had problems that caused a few crashes, they found them and fixed them and now its a great DC10, KC 10, MD11 airframe flying all over the world.



The XL will contine to fly, down under, here another left the nest last month and yet another XL will get airborne in the next few weeks, even if we do fly them upside down.



Chris..

rpf(at)wi.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: radio selection help

Chris,



Yes, it works great with two people.  It's comes with a toggle switch, 

mounted on the dash, to have the intercom on or off, or when you do have a 

passenger to switch it to isolate, if you wish.  The passenger can transmit 

also.



Randy

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