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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: International aircraft relocation Reply with quote

Lynn - sorry this response was so long coming.

I used a 20ft shipping container to move my plane. I removed the wing, drained the fuel and the wrapped them in three layers of bubble wrap supplied by the moving company. I did the same for the horiz stab and elevators.

The fuselage was simply wheeled in and I used tie down straps from the strut and flout mount brackets down to the floor. (wooden floor so it was easy to screw attachment points). I also screwed 2" x 4" Plastic lumber in front and behind wheels.

I slung a wing each side of the container so that they laid flat against the side and had about 6" foam between the leading edge and the floor.

When it arrived it was exactly as packed with no damage.

Registration in Australia was a really simple matter and all that was required was an inspection by a RAA (Recreational Aircraft Australia ) LAME . Only hold up was getting the plane de-registered in Canada as I should have done this before leaving. I was hesitant at the time to do this as I have heard horror stories about owners deregistering planes and then not being able to get them registered. However this wasn't the case and it went extremely smoothly.

C-FAJW is now a legally registered 19-3507 Australian recreational Aircraft

Once here I upgraded my Jab 2200 to the latest model and now have about 1800 hrs to fly to my next major. (Hopefully)

Regards

Gary

Gary Algate
Classic 4 Jab 2200
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655


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Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

Sounds like fun, Gary....you got a game plan on when you'll be back
over here to try some more of that? And by the way, how did you get
your Kitfox over there in Oz? I think you mentioned it, but I've
forgotten. This would be a refresher course for others who might like  
to ship their planes.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive



On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

>
> Hmm - not sure I agree with this one. However it depends upon
> location. When I was on Skis and lived on a lake in Canada I would
> switch of at about 3,00ft over the lake and glide around and
> practice my spot landings. It was great practice and i was amazed
> how far I was out when I first started.
>
> After a while it became very easy to control my descent and use
> slips etc to land "on the numbers".
>
> The only caveat here is I had basically unlimited area to land and
> if I landed long or short it made no difference
>
> I learned a lot from that!
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> SMC, Exploration
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
>
> This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
> this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
> kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
> message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> “This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
> have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe  
> and happy Christmas".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Catz631(at)aol.com
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> 14/12/2008 01:05 AM
> Please respond to
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> To
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> cc
> Subject
> Re: Dead stick practice
>
>
>
>
>
> Lynn,
> I just have to say this (at the risk of being called an old
> lady )! Please don't practice dead stick landings. I had expected
> someone to already bring this up but it hasn't happened. Practicing
> deadsticks is a good way to smash your airplane into pieces. As an
> example we had a guy at our field (Navy student) who decided to
> practice an engine out in a Yankee(nice airplane) so he came over
> the field at high key, low key final and promptly crashed his
> airplane on the field. He was OK but the plane was totaled. If
> something happens enroute or you misjudge, or the engine doesn't  
> start, you are screwed. I have had three dead sticks in my Kitfox.
> All occurred on final when the engine quit due to low idle rpm on
> my engine. I now have that resolved. This happened when I first
> bought the aircraft and I must admit it does glide good. The first
> dead stick (have had many since) for me was in a T-28 which
> occurred when the master rod broke at 3000 feet. I glided that one
> to NAS whiting field and landed 500 ft short of the runway on the
> grass. That airplane is now on static display. The military and
> flight schools have long given up actual dead stick landings as too
> many aircraft were destroyed. One more thing and I will leave you
> alone.( as I highly respect your writing) Glider training will
> absolutely help out a sport or any other pilot. You will learn more
> about your aircraft then you could have imagined and the training
> will apply to any aircraft! ( I even used it in flying P-3's over
> mountainous terrain and on approaches) There, I have said it and I
> am done. It would bother me if one of our new pilots decided to
> shut his engine down to glide around, misjudged and then crunched
> his airplane (besides, rapid cooling is not good on the engine)
> Dick
> Maddux
> Fox
> 4-1200
> 912UL
>
> Pensacola,Fl
>
>
>
> One site keeps you connected to all your emailw-
> dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019">The NEW AOL.com.
>
>
>
> ===================================


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: International aircraft relocation Reply with quote

Thanks, Gary...only one little tidbit of info that I'd like to know
if you're willing to divulge...cost? Had to be horrendous....

And...will you be back to Canada at some time...eh? : )

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive

On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:52 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

Quote:

Lynn - sorry this response was so long coming.

I used a 20ft shipping container to move my plane. I removed the
wing, drained the fuel and the wrapped them in three layers of
bubble wrap supplied by the moving company. I did the same for the
horiz stab and elevators.

The fuselage was simply wheeled in and I used tie down straps from
the strut and flout mount brackets down to the floor. (wooden floor
so it was easy to screw attachment points). I also screwed 2" x 4"
Plastic lumber in front and behind wheels.

I slung a wing each side of the container so that they laid flat
against the side and had about 6" foam between the leading edge and
the floor.

When it arrived it was exactly as packed with no damage.

Registration in Australia was a really simple matter and all that
was required was an inspection by a RAA (Recreational Aircraft
Australia ) LAME . Only hold up was getting the plane de-registered
in Canada as I should have done this before leaving. I was hesitant
at the time to do this as I have heard horror stories about owners
deregistering planes and then not being able to get them
registered. However this wasn't the case and it went extremely
smoothly.

C-FAJW is now a legally registered 19-3507 Australian recreational
Aircraft

Once here I upgraded my Jab 2200 to the latest model and now have
about 1800 hrs to fly to my next major. (Hopefully)

Regards

Gary

Gary Algate
Classic 4 Jab 2200
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
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message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
“This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
and happy Christmas".

Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
15/12/2008 11:38 AM
Please respond to
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To
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Subject
Re: Dead stick practice



Sounds like fun, Gary....you got a game plan on when you'll be back
over here to try some more of that? And by the way, how did you get
your Kitfox over there in Oz? I think you mentioned it, but I've
forgotten. This would be a refresher course for others who might like
to ship their planes.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive

On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

>
> Hmm - not sure I agree with this one. However it depends upon
> location. When I was on Skis and lived on a lake in Canada I would
> switch of at about 3,00ft over the lake and glide around and
> practice my spot landings. It was great practice and i was amazed
> how far I was out when I first started.
>
> After a while it became very easy to control my descent and use
> slips etc to land "on the numbers".
>
> The only caveat here is I had basically unlimited area to land and
> if I landed long or short it made no difference
>
> I learned a lot from that!
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> SMC, Exploration
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
>
> This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
> this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
> kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
> message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> “This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
> have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> and happy Christmas".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Catz631(at)aol.com
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> 14/12/2008 01:05 AM
> Please respond to
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> To
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> cc
> Subject
> Re: Dead stick practice
>
>
>
>
>
> Lynn,
> I just have to say this (at the risk of being called an old
> lady )! Please don't practice dead stick landings. I had expected
> someone to already bring this up but it hasn't happened. Practicing
> deadsticks is a good way to smash your airplane into pieces. As an
> example we had a guy at our field (Navy student) who decided to
> practice an engine out in a Yankee(nice airplane) so he came over
> the field at high key, low key final and promptly crashed his
> airplane on the field. He was OK but the plane was totaled. If
> something happens enroute or you misjudge, or the engine doesn't
> start, you are screwed. I have had three dead sticks in my Kitfox.
> All occurred on final when the engine quit due to low idle rpm on
> my engine. I now have that resolved. This happened when I first
> bought the aircraft and I must admit it does glide good. The first
> dead stick (have had many since) for me was in a T-28 which
> occurred when the master rod broke at 3000 feet. I glided that one
> to NAS whiting field and landed 500 ft short of the runway on the
> grass. That airplane is now on static display. The military and
> flight schools have long given up actual dead stick landings as too
> many aircraft were destroyed. One more thing and I will leave you
> alone.( as I highly respect your writing) Glider training will
> absolutely help out a sport or any other pilot. You will learn more
> about your aircraft then you could have imagined and the training
> will apply to any aircraft! ( I even used it in flying P-3's over
> mountainous terrain and on approaches) There, I have said it and I
> am done. It would bother me if one of our new pilots decided to
> shut his engine down to glide around, misjudged and then crunched
> his airplane (besides, rapid cooling is not good on the engine)
> Dick
> Maddux
> Fox
> 4-1200
> 912UL
>
> Pensacola,Fl
>
>
>
> One site keeps you connected to all your emailw-
> dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019">The NEW AOL.com.
>
>
>
> ===================================

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: International aircraft relocation Reply with quote

Cost wasn't as bad as I thought (approx CD$6,000)

I get back to the US and C about every 6 mths at least for business but I think I'll stay put in Australia for at least the foreseeable future

Gary

Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655


This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
“This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we have made a contribution to [url=Arial]UNICEF Australia[/url]. We wish you a safe and happy Christmas".







Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
18/12/2008 10:31 AM
Please respond to
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com To
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com cc
Subject
Re: Re: International aircraft relocation




--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

Thanks, Gary...only one little tidbit of info that I'd like to know
if you're willing to divulge...cost? Had to be horrendous....

And...will you be back to Canada at some time...eh? : )

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive



On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:52 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

>
> Lynn - sorry this response was so long coming.
>
> I used a 20ft shipping container to move my plane. I removed the  
> wing, drained the fuel and the wrapped them in three layers of
> bubble wrap supplied by the moving company. I did the same for the
> horiz stab and elevators.
>
> The fuselage was simply wheeled in and I used tie down straps from
> the strut and flout mount brackets down to the floor. (wooden floor
> so it was easy to screw attachment points). I also screwed 2" x 4"
> Plastic lumber in front and behind wheels.
>
> I slung a wing each side of the container so that they laid flat  
> against the side and had about 6" foam between the leading edge and
> the floor.
>
> When it arrived it was exactly as packed with no damage.
>
> Registration in Australia was a really simple matter and all that
> was required was an inspection by a RAA (Recreational Aircraft
> Australia ) LAME . Only hold up was getting the plane de-registered
> in Canada as I should have done this before leaving. I was hesitant
> at the time to do this as I have heard horror stories about owners
> deregistering planes and then not being able to get them
> registered. However this wasn't the case and it went extremely
> smoothly.
>
> C-FAJW is now a legally registered 19-3507 Australian recreational
> Aircraft
>
> Once here I upgraded my Jab 2200 to the latest model and now have
> about 1800 hrs to fly to my next major. (Hopefully)
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab 2200
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
>
> This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
> this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
> kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
> message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> “This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
> have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe  
> and happy Christmas".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> 15/12/2008 11:38 AM
> Please respond to
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> To
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> cc
> Subject
> Re: Dead stick practice
>
>
>
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
>
> Sounds like fun, Gary....you got a game plan on when you'll be back
> over here to try some more of that? And by the way, how did you get
> your Kitfox over there in Oz? I think you mentioned it, but I've
> forgotten. This would be a refresher course for others who might like
> to ship their planes.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
> do not archive
>
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmm - not sure I agree with this one. However it depends upon
> > location. When I was on Skis and lived on a lake in Canada I would
> > switch of at about 3,00ft over the lake and glide around and
> > practice my spot landings. It was great practice and i was amazed
> > how far I was out when I first started.
> >
> > After a while it became very easy to control my descent and use
> > slips etc to land "on the numbers".
> >
> > The only caveat here is I had basically unlimited area to land and
> > if I landed long or short it made no difference
> >
> > I learned a lot from that!
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Gary Algate
> > SMC, Exploration
> > Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
> >
> >
> > This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> > addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
> > this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> > recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
> > kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
> > message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> > arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> > “This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
> > have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> > and happy Christmas".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Catz631(at)aol.com
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > 14/12/2008 01:05 AM
> > Please respond to
> > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > To
> > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > cc
> > Subject
> > Re: Dead stick practice
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynn,
> > I just have to say this (at the risk of being called an old
> > lady )! Please don't practice dead stick landings. I had expected
> > someone to already bring this up but it hasn't happened. Practicing
> > deadsticks is a good way to smash your airplane into pieces. As an
> > example we had a guy at our field (Navy student) who decided to
> > practice an engine out in a Yankee(nice airplane) so he came over
> > the field at high key, low key final and promptly crashed his
> > airplane on the field. He was OK but the plane was totaled. If
> > something happens enroute or you misjudge, or the engine doesn't
> > start, you are screwed. I have had three dead sticks in my Kitfox.
> > All occurred on final when the engine quit due to low idle rpm on
> > my engine. I now have that resolved. This happened when I first
> > bought the aircraft and I must admit it does glide good. The first
> > dead stick (have had many since) for me was in a T-28 which
> > occurred when the master rod broke at 3000 feet. I glided that one
> > to NAS whiting field and landed 500 ft short of the runway on the
> > grass. That airplane is now on static display. The military and
> > flight schools have long given up actual dead stick landings as too
> > many aircraft were destroyed. One more thing and I will leave you
> > alone.( as I highly respect your writing) Glider training will
> > absolutely help out a sport or any other pilot. You will learn more
> > about your aircraft then you could have imagined and the training
> > will apply to any aircraft! ( I even used it in flying P-3's over
> > mountainous terrain and on approaches) There, I have said it and I
> > am done. It would bother me if one of our new pilots decided to
> > shut his engine down to glide around, misjudged and then crunched
> > his airplane (besides, rapid cooling is not good on the engine)
> >  Dick
> > Maddux
> >  Fox
> > 4-1200
> >  912UL
> >
> > Pensacola,Fl
> >
> >
> >
> > One site keeps you connected to all your emailw-
> > dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000019">The NEW AOL.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > ===================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ===================================


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Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: International aircraft relocation Reply with quote

Ouch! Bad enough....but better than not flying

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive

On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:17 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

Quote:

Cost wasn't as bad as I thought (approx CD$6,000)

I get back to the US and C about every 6 mths at least for business
but I think I'll stay put in Australia for at least the foreseeable
future

Gary

Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
this message by persons or entities other than the intended
recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
“This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
and happy Christmas".

Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
18/12/2008 10:31 AM
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To
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Thanks, Gary...only one little tidbit of info that I'd like to know
if you're willing to divulge...cost? Had to be horrendous....

And...will you be back to Canada at some time...eh? : )

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive

On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:52 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

>
> Lynn - sorry this response was so long coming.
>
> I used a 20ft shipping container to move my plane. I removed the
> wing, drained the fuel and the wrapped them in three layers of
> bubble wrap supplied by the moving company. I did the same for the
> horiz stab and elevators.
>
> The fuselage was simply wheeled in and I used tie down straps from
> the strut and flout mount brackets down to the floor. (wooden floor
> so it was easy to screw attachment points). I also screwed 2" x 4"
> Plastic lumber in front and behind wheels.
>
> I slung a wing each side of the container so that they laid flat
> against the side and had about 6" foam between the leading edge and
> the floor.
>
> When it arrived it was exactly as packed with no damage.
>
> Registration in Australia was a really simple matter and all that
> was required was an inspection by a RAA (Recreational Aircraft
> Australia ) LAME . Only hold up was getting the plane de-registered
> in Canada as I should have done this before leaving. I was hesitant
> at the time to do this as I have heard horror stories about owners
> deregistering planes and then not being able to get them
> registered. However this wasn't the case and it went extremely
> smoothly.
>
> C-FAJW is now a legally registered 19-3507 Australian recreational
> Aircraft
>
> Once here I upgraded my Jab 2200 to the latest model and now have
> about 1800 hrs to fly to my next major. (Hopefully)
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab 2200
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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> Re: Dead stick practice
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> Sounds like fun, Gary....you got a game plan on when you'll be back
> over here to try some more of that? And by the way, how did you get
> your Kitfox over there in Oz? I think you mentioned it, but I've
> forgotten. This would be a refresher course for others who might
like
> to ship their planes.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
> do not archive
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>
> On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmm - not sure I agree with this one. However it depends upon
> > location. When I was on Skis and lived on a lake in Canada I would
> > switch of at about 3,00ft over the lake and glide around and
> > practice my spot landings. It was great practice and i was amazed
> > how far I was out when I first started.
> >
> > After a while it became very easy to control my descent and use
> > slips etc to land "on the numbers".
> >
> > The only caveat here is I had basically unlimited area to land
and
> > if I landed long or short it made no difference
> >
> > I learned a lot from that!
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Gary Algate
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> > To
> > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > cc
> > Subject
> > Re: Dead stick practice
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynn,
> > I just have to say this (at the risk of being called an old
> > lady )! Please don't practice dead stick landings. I had expected
> > someone to already bring this up but it hasn't happened.
Practicing
> > deadsticks is a good way to smash your airplane into pieces. As an
> > example we had a guy at our field (Navy student) who decided to
> > practice an engine out in a Yankee(nice airplane) so he came over
> > the field at high key, low key final and promptly crashed his
> > airplane on the field. He was OK but the plane was totaled. If
> > something happens enroute or you misjudge, or the engine doesn't
> > start, you are screwed. I have had three dead sticks in my Kitfox.
> > All occurred on final when the engine quit due to low idle rpm on
> > my engine. I now have that resolved. This happened when I first
> > bought the aircraft and I must admit it does glide good. The first
> > dead stick (have had many since) for me was in a T-28 which
> > occurred when the master rod broke at 3000 feet. I glided that one
> > to NAS whiting field and landed 500 ft short of the runway on the
> > grass. That airplane is now on static display. The military and
> > flight schools have long given up actual dead stick landings as
too
> > many aircraft were destroyed. One more thing and I will leave you
> > alone.( as I highly respect your writing) Glider training will
> > absolutely help out a sport or any other pilot. You will learn
more
> > about your aircraft then you could have imagined and the training
> > will apply to any aircraft! ( I even used it in flying P-3's over
> > mountainous terrain and on approaches) There, I have said it and I
> > am done. It would bother me if one of our new pilots decided to
> > shut his engine down to glide around, misjudged and then crunched
> > his airplane (besides, rapid cooling is not good on the engine)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: International aircraft relocation Reply with quote

If it makes you feel better Lynn I shipped my KFII from the UK to the US 2
years ago for much cheaper than that. Same as Gary it was in a 20ft
container but I also included 2 boats, a fair amount of furniture, and all
of my worldly possessions. I actually bought the container and use it as a
secure "outbuilding" on my farm now, so for comparison you would subtract
the cost of the container and substitute rental costs.

£900 (approx US$1500 at the time) to buy a "reconditioned" container
About £500 ($830) UK-side to haul it to the port and ship it
About $700 to receive it in Baltimore and truck it to Pa
$300 rental of a *huge* crane to offload it onto it's new "foundation"

As I said the purchase of the container and use as a building were optional,
but a 20x8x8 steel building for $1500 was a good deal I think. Also the
receiving fee included about $300 extra from US Customs because my container
got randomly (so they say) selected for inspection.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: International aircraft relocation Reply with quote

I'm guessing that it was a sea-going metal container, so that doesn't
sound like too bad a deal....ship the plane, and live in the
container...not bad at all. : )
Yes that sounds like a much better deal than what Gary got, but his
was $6000 Canadian?...CD? and I don't know how that translates.
Thanks for the info, Bob.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
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also building a new pair of snow skis


On Dec 18, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Bob Brennan wrote:

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<matronics(at)bob.brennan.name>

If it makes you feel better Lynn I shipped my KFII from the UK to
the US 2
years ago for much cheaper than that. Same as Gary it was in a 20ft
container but I also included 2 boats, a fair amount of furniture,
and all
of my worldly possessions. I actually bought the container and use
it as a
secure "outbuilding" on my farm now, so for comparison you would
subtract
the cost of the container and substitute rental costs.

£900 (approx US$1500 at the time) to buy a "reconditioned" container
About £500 ($830) UK-side to haul it to the port and ship it
About $700 to receive it in Baltimore and truck it to Pa
$300 rental of a *huge* crane to offload it onto it's new "foundation"

As I said the purchase of the container and use as a building were
optional,
but a 20x8x8 steel building for $1500 was a good deal I think. Also
the
receiving fee included about $300 extra from US Customs because my
container
got randomly (so they say) selected for inspection.

Bob Brennan - N717GB

On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:17 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:

>
> Cost wasn't as bad as I thought (approx CD$6,000)
>
> I get back to the US and C about every 6 mths at least for business
> but I think I'll stay put in Australia for at least the foreseeable
> future
>
> Gary
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