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lcottrell
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 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: rats inc |
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Hi,
A little advice from a "never failed yet" trapper. If the rats are licking the P Butter from the pan, there are two ways to handle it. Firstly it may not be rats, it may be mice that are not heavy enough to trip the trap. I would put lots of mouse traps around or a live trap that will take care of the little ones. The other thing you can do is to dig enough ground out to bury the trap. It would need to be by a wall where you could hang your bait high enough that the rat would have to stretch to reach the bait. You, I assume have a steel trap with a pan, if so tear off a small piece of cloth and lay over the trigger and pan, but not over the jaws. The idea is to keep the dirt from sifting under the pan and keep the trap from springing. Sift the dirt over the jaws just enough to conceal the trap, but the bare minimum necessary to hide it. What you are trying to do is to lure the rat into walking up to the wall and trying to reach the food that is dangling just out of reach, thus stepping into a trap that it does not know is there. Rats generally run along walls and natural corridors, so even if they don't smell the bait, (unlikely) they have a chance to step into the trap. If there are isolated points of entrance bury a trap there. If they run the walls, such as on a 2x4, place a trap there where they can't avoid it.
Karen and I put the wings on the Firestar today, wind is howling, cold as a well diggers butt!
Larry C
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beauford
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Location: Brandon, FL
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Re: rats inc |
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Rats... When Beauford was a kid, fresh out of the state home and they hid stuff so I was no longer able to get access to my sister's dolls to disfigure and mutilate them, my interest turned to rats. We had tons of them out in the dairy barn, but my Pa got tired of me ricocheting .22 rounds out through the lower walls of the barn...
The device shown in the attachment was the result... I did not conceive of this thing, I had seen one in use on another farm. It is cheap, easy to make, and has no moving parts except the rat....and believe 'ol Beauford, the rats some kinda move when they hop on this sucker. I have seen 'em literally bang off an 8 foot ceiling over this thing. You haven't lived until you have seen a smoking rat executing a ballistic trajectory all the way across the room.
Anyway, this is cheap and scalable if the sportsman wants to specialize in mice... a 2 inch broomhandle works very well for them.
One thing, though -- it's a tad rough on kids, dogs, cats, cows, etc... I recommend you employ it in places where you won't get too many of 'em...
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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: rats inc |
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LarryThat's a good way to set a snap-trap; must cover the pan with newspaper or whatever to keep dirt out. I've put a trap under 2" of cracked corn in the bottom of a deep galv. steel pail where they have to jump down into it. Chained trap to handle. Never missed.
If you can see their runways, and there's a spot where they jump down from one level to another, put a sheet of flypaper over their landing spot.
Works, but you'll hear the worst blood-curdling screams ever! I've watched rats climb up and over & around a trap set on a rafter walkway; they may be smart but can't change direction in midair.
Tough time of year to finish an aircraft & then the wx wont let you fly it!
Good luck, Merry Xmas,
Russ
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
A little advice from a "never failed yet" trapper. If the rats are licking the P Butter from the pan, there are two ways to handle it. Firstly it may not be rats, it may be mice that are not heavy enough to trip the trap. I would put lots of mouse traps around or a live trap that will take care of the little ones. The other thing you can do is to dig enough ground out to bury the trap. It would need to be by a wall where you could hang your bait high enough that the rat would have to stretch to reach the bait. You, I assume have a steel trap with a pan, if so tear off a small piece of cloth and lay over the trigger and pan, but not over the jaws. The idea is to keep the dirt from sifting under the pan and keep the trap from springing. Sift the dirt over the jaws just enough to conceal the trap, but the bare minimum necessary to hide it. What you are trying to do is to lure the rat into walking up to the wall and trying to reach the food that is dangling just out of reach, thus stepping into a trap that it does not know is there. Rats generally run along walls and natural corridors, so even if they don't smell the bait, (unlikely) they have a chance to step into the trap. If there are isolated points of entrance bury a trap there. If they run the walls, such as on a 2x4, place a trap there where they can't avoid it.
Karen and I put the wings on the Firestar today, wind is howling, cold as a well diggers butt!
Larry C
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: rats inc |
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Looks as if "Rats" is now running third to Sea Foam and Vortex Generators...
Herb
At 09:57 AM 12/19/2008, you wrote:
[quote]Larry
That's a good way to set a snap-trap; must cover the pan with newspaper or whatever to keep dirt out. I've put a trap under 2" of cracked corn in the bottom of a deep galv. steel pail where they have to jump down into it. Chained trap to handle. Never missed.
If you can see their runways, and there's a spot where they jump down from one level to another, put a sheet of flypaper over their landing spot.
Works, but you'll hear the worst blood-curdling screams ever! I've watched rats climb up and over & around a trap set on a rafter walkway; they may be smart but can't change direction in midair.
Tough time of year to finish an aircraft & then the wx wont let you fly it!
Good luck, Merry Xmas,
Russ
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
A little advice from a "never failed yet" trapper. If the rats are licking the P Butter from the pan, there are two ways to handle it. Firstly it may not be rats, it may be mice that are not heavy enough to trip the trap. I would put lots of mouse traps around or a live trap that will take care of the little ones. The other thing you can do is to dig enough ground out to bury the trap. It would need to be by a wall where you could hang your bait high enough that the rat would have to stretch to reach the bait. You, I assume have a steel trap with a pan, if so tear off a small piece of cloth and lay over the trigger and pan, but not over the jaws. The idea is to keep the dirt from sifting under the pan and keep the trap from springing. Sift the dirt over the jaws just enough to conceal the trap, but the bare minimum necessary to hide it. What you are trying to do is to lure the rat into walking up to the wall and trying to reach the food that is dangling just out of reach, thus stepping into a trap that it does not know is there. Rats generally run along walls and natural corridors, so even if they don't smell the bait, (unlikely) they have a chance to step into the trap. If there are isolated points of entrance bury a trap there. If they run the walls, such as on a 2x4, place a trap there where they can't avoid it.
Karen and I put the wings on the Firestar today, wind is howling, cold as a well diggers butt!
Larry C
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