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 Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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Something I've mulled over to build for my S5 are skis built on a platform of snowboard skis. If you take a look at them, they're light, very strong, a lot of surface area, already have the curves built into them, and can be purchased used for a reasonable price. All they would need is a backbone for mounting on the axle, grab handles, and the hardware. I'm still looking around for a matching pair to tinker with.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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Deke C I like the snowboard idea. I like it alot.
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford C IL
From: fox5flyer(at)idealwifi.net
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Snowboards for skis
Date: Sun C 21 Dec 2008 08:20:51 -0500
Something I've mulled over to build for my S5 are skis built on a platform of snowboard skis. If you take a look at them C they're light C very strong C a lot of surface area C already have the curves built into them C and can be purchased used for a reasonable price. All they would need is a backbone for mounting on the axle C grab handles C and the hardware. I'm still looking around for a matching pair to tinker with.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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Deke,
I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with the entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation behind the axel.
The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding, but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for ktifox skis.
Randy
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Subject: Snowboards for skis
Something I've mulled over to build for my S5 are skis built on a platform of snowboard skis. If you take a look at them, they're light, very strong, a lot of surface area, already have the curves built into them, and can be purchased used for a reasonable price. All they would need is a backbone for mounting on the axle, grab handles, and the hardware. I'm still looking around for a matching pair to tinker with.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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What you're proposing, Randy, is basically how the Wipaire skis are
designed. I have a picture of them, and it looks like the edges are
turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
bottoms that he attached to his skis.
I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms, such that
they bend up at the edges, and act like spray rails on a boat.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
| Quote: | Deke,
I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with the
entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
behind the axel.
The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding,
but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for ktifox skis.
Randy
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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Randy C Deke C And Lynn C How about attaching "spray rails" to the edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel C attach a bent up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford C IL
| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
Date: Sun C 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
What you're proposing C Randy C is basically how the Wipaire skis are
designed. I have a picture of them C and it looks like the edges are
turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
bottoms that he attached to his skis.
I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms C such that
they bend up at the edges C and act like spray rails on a boat.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild C and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 21 C 2008 C at 12:26 PM C Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> Deke C
>
> I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
> few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
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>
>
> I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with the
> entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
> to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> behind the axel.
>
>
>
> The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
> have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding C
> but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for ktifox skis.
>
>
>
> Randy
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Snowboards for skis |
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http://www.airglas.com/
gives lots of pics of some skis that work pretty darn well.
My skis were made by a fellow that used to work at airglas. He made 5 sets so I am told of the size I have. It would not take much to pop a mold off and lay some up, or I may be able to track him down and see if he would make another run.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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I think they would work just fine, but not for 18 feet of fresh powder. I'm not sure that there is any real importance in the turned up edges. They're plenty strong as they are. The would just need a good backbone, but that's easy. Just be aware of their limitations. Go for it and keep us in the loop.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
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Float Flyr
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Before you start doing anything with aluminium, especially in direct contact with snow, consider the fact that bare aluminium will ice up like nothing you can imagine... even under the coldest driest conditions.
The very best thing to have in contact with the snow is Teflon plastic... My father built several komitiks (sleighs) to pull behind his snowmobile. The best thing he found for running surfaces was Krazy Karpet. Most hospitals have thousands of them turned in by the parents of injured children for free. They are easy to attach using strips of Teflon plastic and screws and they are easy to replace.... and there is no way you will ever get them to ice up! KrazyKarpet comes in different colours so if you want you can colour code the year you last recovered the base of your skis.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:35 PM
To: kitfox matronics
Subject: RE: Snowboards for skis
Randy, Deke, And Lynn, How about attaching "spray rails" to the edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel, attach a bent up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
>
> What you're proposing, Randy, is basically how the Wipaire skis are
> designed. I have a picture of them, and it looks like the edges are
> turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
> bottoms that he attached to his skis.
> I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms, such that
> they bend up at the edges, and act like spray rails on a boat.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>
> > Deke,
> >
> > I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
> > few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with the
> > entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
> > to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> > behind the axel.
> >
> >
> >
> > The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
> > have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding,
> > but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for ktifox skis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Snowboards for skis |
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What is the square inch area of these boards that you propose using,
Pat and Deke?
When I was taxiing the day before yesterday, I watched the snow
kicked up by the tire pile up on the tail of my ski, so I'm just not
sure whether the cheese cutter effect is doing the "damage" back
there or if it's the wheel itself. In either case, having no ski back
there keeps the snow from accumulating there. And of course if you go
without the wheel, you eliminate the problem altogether.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:04 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Randy, Deke, And Lynn, How about attaching "spray rails" to the
edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you
don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel, attach a bent
up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
>
> What you're proposing, Randy, is basically how the Wipaire skis are
> designed. I have a picture of them, and it looks like the edges are
> turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
> bottoms that he attached to his skis.
> I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms, such that
> they bend up at the edges, and act like spray rails on a boat.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>
> > Deke,
> >
> > I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
> > few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with
the
> > entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
> > to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> > behind the axel.
> >
> >
> >
> > The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
> > have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding,
> > but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for
ktifox skis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
>
>
>
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This sounds like what I purchased a few years ago to put under heavy objects so as to allow one person to take hold of a lead rope and easily move very heavy object around on carpet. I believe they came from a carpet layer’s supply house. They were unbelievable for that.
Jim Crowder
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:57 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Snowboards for skis
Before you start doing anything with aluminium, especially in direct contact with snow, consider the fact that bare aluminium will ice up like nothing you can imagine... even under the coldest driest conditions.
The very best thing to have in contact with the snow is Teflon plastic... My father built several komitiks (sleighs) to pull behind his snowmobile. The best thing he found for running surfaces was Krazy Karpet. Most hospitals have thousands of them turned in by the parents of injured children for free. They are easy to attach using strips of Teflon plastic and screws and they are easy to replace.... and there is no way you will ever get them to ice up! KrazyKarpet comes in different colours so if you want you can colour code the year you last recovered the base of your skis.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:35 PM
To: kitfox matronics
Subject: RE: Snowboards for skis
Randy, Deke, And Lynn, How about attaching "spray rails" to the edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel, attach a bent up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
>
> What you're proposing, Randy, is basically how the Wipaire skis are
> designed. I have a picture of them, and it looks like the edges are
> turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
> bottoms that he attached to his skis.
> I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms, such that
> they bend up at the edges, and act like spray rails on a boat.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>
> > Deke,
> >
> > I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
> > few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with the
> > entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
> > to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> > behind the axel.
> >
> >
> >
> > The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
> > have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding,
> > but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for ktifox skis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Float Flyr
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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KrazyKarpet is a piece of plastic around two feet wide by three and a half feet long that kids use to go sliding... Problem is there is no control once a kid starts to slide. Many end up with back problems from hitting bumps on the ground or serious injury from hitting large rocks or trees. Even a small light kid can gain some pretty dangerous speeds on the things even on gentle slopes. They are not allowed at all anywhere including the parking lot on a ski hill. That’s why the hospitals have so many of them.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:26 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Snowboards for skis
This sounds like what I purchased a few years ago to put under heavy objects so as to allow one person to take hold of a lead rope and easily move very heavy object around on carpet. I believe they came from a carpet layer’s supply house. They were unbelievable for that.
Jim Crowder
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:57 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Snowboards for skis
Before you start doing anything with aluminium, especially in direct contact with snow, consider the fact that bare aluminium will ice up like nothing you can imagine... even under the coldest driest conditions.
The very best thing to have in contact with the snow is Teflon plastic... My father built several komitiks (sleighs) to pull behind his snowmobile. The best thing he found for running surfaces was Krazy Karpet. Most hospitals have thousands of them turned in by the parents of injured children for free. They are easy to attach using strips of Teflon plastic and screws and they are easy to replace.... and there is no way you will ever get them to ice up! KrazyKarpet comes in different colours so if you want you can colour code the year you last recovered the base of your skis.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:35 PM
To: kitfox matronics
Subject: RE: Snowboards for skis
Randy, Deke, And Lynn, How about attaching "spray rails" to the edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel, attach a bent up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
>
> What you're proposing, Randy, is basically how the Wipaire skis are
> designed. I have a picture of them, and it looks like the edges are
> turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
> bottoms that he attached to his skis.
> I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms, such that
> they bend up at the edges, and act like spray rails on a boat.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
>
> > Deke,
> >
> > I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
> > few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with the
> > entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
> > to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> > behind the axel.
> >
> >
> >
> > The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
> > have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding,
> > but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for ktifox skis.
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I thought this was interesting. Found them on craigslist this morning.
The wheel sits in a cradle and a strap over the top holds the skis on... would be very easy to use this set up on the snow boards.
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Lynn C I haven't got snowboards yet. Just saw the posting of the idea. But you can bet C thanks to your posting Lynn C they will be bigger than 1 sq" per pound of air plane.
Pat Reilly
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| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Snowboards for skis
Date: Sun C 21 Dec 2008 16:19:40 -0500
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
What is the square inch area of these boards that you propose using C
Pat and Deke?
When I was taxiing the day before yesterday C I watched the snow
kicked up by the tire pile up on the tail of my ski C so I'm just not
sure whether the cheese cutter effect is doing the "damage" back
there or if it's the wheel itself. In either case C having no ski back
there keeps the snow from accumulating there. And of course if you go
without the wheel C you eliminate the problem altogether.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild C and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 21 C 2008 C at 1:04 PM C patrick reilly wrote:
> Randy C Deke C And Lynn C How about attaching "spray rails" to the
> edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you
> don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel C attach a bent
> up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford C IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> > Date: Sun C 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > What you're proposing C Randy C is basically how the Wipaire skis are
> > designed. I have a picture of them C and it looks like the edges are
> > turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
> > bottoms that he attached to his skis.
> > I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms C such that
> > they bend up at the edges C and act like spray rails on a boat.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 596+ hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > flying again after rebuild C and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> > system;
> > also building a new pair of snow skis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 21 C 2008 C at 12:26 PM C Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> >
> > > Deke C
> > >
> > > I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even gone to a
> > > few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis with
> the
> > > entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them easy
> > > to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> > > behind the axel.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good boards
> > > have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow boarding C
> > > but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for
> ktifox skis.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > >
> >
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I'm heading for the "plastic store" to get my ski bottoms, and I just
ordered all the tubing and hardware needed for my new skis. I'll be
Santa's little helper in a few days. : )
Yup, as all my ex-wives used to say..."bigger is better"....guess
that's why they sought greener pastures....
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:17 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, I haven't got snowboards yet. Just saw the posting of the
idea. But you can bet, thanks to your posting Lynn, they will be
bigger than 1 sq" per pound of air plane.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:19:40 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
>
> What is the square inch area of these boards that you propose using,
> Pat and Deke?
>
> When I was taxiing the day before yesterday, I watched the snow
> kicked up by the tire pile up on the tail of my ski, so I'm just not
> sure whether the cheese cutter effect is doing the "damage" back
> there or if it's the wheel itself. In either case, having no ski
back
> there keeps the snow from accumulating there. And of course if
you go
> without the wheel, you eliminate the problem altogether.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:04 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
> > Randy, Deke, And Lynn, How about attaching "spray rails" to the
> > edges of the board made out of 1/8" or so aluminum. And if you
> > don't cut out the board completely behind the wheel, attach a bent
> > up piece behind the wheel to eliminate the cheese cutter effect.
> >
> > Pat Reilly
> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > Rockford, IL
> >
> > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > Subject: Re: Snowboards for skis
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0500
> > > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > >
> > >
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > >
> > > What you're proposing, Randy, is basically how the Wipaire
skis are
> > > designed. I have a picture of them, and it looks like the
edges are
> > > turned up slightly. I also believe that's how Leonard made the
> > > bottoms that he attached to his skis.
> > > I'm going to attach side "rails" onto my new ski bottoms,
such that
> > > they bend up at the edges, and act like spray rails on a boat.
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
> > > Sensenich 62x46
> > > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire
ignition
> > > system;
> > > also building a new pair of snow skis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> > >
> > > > Deke,
> > > >
> > > > I have been toying with that idea for a year or so. Even
gone to a
> > > > few used Ski sales looking for a pair of matching boards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have decided that I want to build wheel penetration skis
with
> > the
> > > > entire board cut out behind the wheel. This would make them
easy
> > > > to put on and I think would still provide a lot of floatation
> > > > behind the axel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The one thing I don’t like with this approach is the good
boards
> > > > have really sharp edges on the sides. Better for snow
boarding,
> > > > but I think slightly turned up edges may be desirable for
> > ktifox skis.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Randy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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